topic Re: Render/Performance issue in ArcGIS Pro Questions

Render/Performance issue

MatthewMinick — Mon, 01 Mar 2021 14:04:17 GMT

Hi All,

I am new to ArcGIS Pro (I have been using ArcGIS desktop for quite long time now).

I am trying to compose the maps using ArcGIS Pro (Create Layout). But somehow the layer rendering/labeling seems to be slow compared to ArcGIS desktop (When I use the same data).

Can anyone please tell me what could be the reason? Is there any rendering/display settings to be tweaked?

Re: Render/Performance issue

KoryKramer — Mon, 01 Mar 2021 14:16:43 GMT

Hi @MatthewMinick First run through to ensure that the machine and graphics card meet the ArcGIS Pro requirements which are different than ArcMap. You will also find display and rendering settings in that document that you can work with.

Work through those steps first and follow up to let us know if you're still seeing performance differences.

Are you using the Standard labeling engine in both ArcMap and Pro? Or Maplex in both ArcMap and Pro? (I ask because Maplex is an option in ArcMap, but is the default in Pro).

Re: Render/Performance issue

Scott_Jeffrey — Mon, 01 Mar 2021 14:24:59 GMT

Matthew,

I have a couple of questions before I give an answer. Are you drawing in images from a server? Are the images on your machine? What kind of images are you processing? Are you processing images for analysis or are you just displaying the imagery is a layer?

There are definitely some tweaks you can make in ArcGIS pro to make processing faster. If you are just displaying the images as a base map and you're not doing any analysis you can definitely speed up the processing by ensuring that you are building pyramids for your images. You can find the settings for building pyramids under the analysis tab and scrolling down to the raster storage selection. Make sure that the build pyramids box is checked, set the resampling technique is sat to bilinear. Also, if you're using a quad core machine then you can set processor type in the same environments. Down below the raster storage section you'll see a section that says processor type. If you hover over the space to the left of the processor type command and click on the information tab you can assign different processors to carry on the calculations. If you have multiple GPU's you can also assign more than one GPU to do the processing. This will vastly increase the speed with which the rasters are rendered. There are other things that you can do and if you give some more specifics I can make suggestions.

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Re: Render/Performance issue

MatthewMinick — Mon, 01 Mar 2021 15:14:43 GMT

Thanks for your reply,

I ran the tool. I have attached the results. Please check.

I am guessing it may be because there is no dedicated video card in my system.

I am using Maplex label engine.

Re: Render/Performance issue

MatthewMinick — Mon, 01 Mar 2021 15:16:59 GMT

Hi,

I am rendering shapefiles (Points, Polygons).

I am not rendering any image as of now, except the default basemap which shows the roads, lakes/rivers etc.

Re: Render/Performance issue

KoryKramer — Mon, 01 Mar 2021 18:26:12 GMT

Yeah - having a dedicated card might help. Did you work with any of the display options:

or anything from the labeling section

Did any of those help?

Re: Render/Performance issue

ThomasColson — Tue, 02 Mar 2021 14:23:54 GMT

Just adding locally-stored shapefiles to a map in Pro is not a geoprocessing task, and should not under-perform ArcMap. With that in mind, ArcGIS Pro performance issues are not an isolated anomaly: Why does ArcGIS Pro have to be so slow??? Unfortunately the onus to actually prove this is on you, which you can do with https://support.esri.com/en/technical-article/000013215 and https://www.esri.com/arcgis-blog/products/announcements/announcements/how-to-use-arcgis-pro-perftools-to-measure-performance-of-adding-and-rendering-new-layers/.

Re: Render/Performance issue

MatthewMinick — Tue, 09 Mar 2021 05:10:30 GMT

Hi,

I guess the issue was with the labeling (Because I have 10 or more layers labeled together) so I tweaked the Inbound and Outbound limits in the Labeling properties. It is better now, Not very fast, but better.

I also changed the display setting as suggested by @KoryKramer

Re: Render/Performance issue

KoryKramer — Tue, 09 Mar 2021 20:20:56 GMT

@MatthewMinick I'm glad to hear that it is better, but if you are comparing to ArcMap and noting that draw time in Pro is slower, we would want to get this example to the team to investigate.

We have your 'can you run it' specs from the earlier comment. In order to understand if the performance may be impacted by the machine's limited dedicated video RAM, would you be able to share a map package? If your map was originally created in ArcMap and you imported it into ArcGIS Pro, could you share the mpk from ArcMap?

If it was created in Pro, would you be able to create a handful of bookmarks at different scales that demonstrate different labeling densities, record the times you're seeing for labels to draw for each respective bookmark, and send us those stats along with the mpkx? You can email me at kkramer@esri.com.

Thanks

Re: Render/Performance issue

RBierma — Wed, 28 Jul 2021 15:35:29 GMT

Latching onto this topic, I have a map that renders pretty quick in Desktop and I had recreated it in Pro and it labels painfully slow. I then went and imported the original map document instead of remaking it by hand, same issue. It does not have any imagery, and my computer performance is 100% not the issue. It doesn't include any ESRI Basemap layers, it is just a PLSS grid on a large piece of paper with a couple of other shapefile features and it is so slow to label in the sections.

Re: Render/Performance issue

KoryKramer — Wed, 28 Jul 2021 15:43:26 GMT

Hi @RBierma

1. Are you on ArcGIS Pro 2.8.x?

Just to give us a baseline, what are your results from running the 'Check your computer's ability to run ArcGIS Pro' mentioned under Hardware check in https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-pro-documents/troubleshooting-performance-issues-in-arcgis-pro/ta-p/1025516 ?

Also, can you download and run the Pro Performance Assessment Tool and share your results?

You can post those here or send to me at kkramer@esri.com.

Beyond that, are you able to share a map package from ArcMap? That way we can run comparisons on our side between labeling times in ArcMap vs. ArcGIS Pro.

Re: Render/Performance issue

KoryKramer — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 19:27:15 GMT

@RBierma I wanted to follow up on this again. Are you on ArcGIS Pro 2.8.x?

If possible, it would be great if you could share a map package from ArcMap and the time discrepancy that you're seeing. We'll be able to share that with the development team to investigate.

You can email me at kkramer@esri.com. Thank you!

Re: Render/Performance issue

MatthewMinick — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 05:35:54 GMT

Yes Sir..

We are using ArcGIS Pro 2.8.x

Unfortunately I am not able to share the package file since the package file size is big.

Re: Render/Performance issue

KoryKramer — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 13:20:49 GMT

@MatthewMinick in your earlier comments we saw that while the machines meets the specs, not having a dedicated gpu could be the cause of slower performance. One thing you have not done yet is run Pro PAT. Could you please read this, download and run the tool and send us your Level 1, Level 2 and Level 3 results? https://www.esri.com/arcgis-blog/products/arcgis-pro/announcements/announcing-the-arcgis-pro-performance-assessment-tool-pat/

If the only thing preventing you from sending us a map package from ArcMap, if you email me I can set up an ftp site to transfer the file. Be sure to include bookmarks of extents where you are drawing labels so that we can run A-B comparisons. For example, at bookmark 1 in ArcMap, labels finish drawing in 5 seconds, while at bookmark 1 in ArcGIS Pro labels finish drawing in 10 seconds. This type information will be necessary for us to pursue this.

I look forward to seeing your PAT results and receiving an ArcMap map package so that we can pursue this with you.

Thank you!