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What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

ChadKopplin — Fri, 09 Mar 2018 21:48:03 GMT

I have started using ArcGIS Pro for a project looking at Groundwater Vulnerability to Nitrate contamination. I decided that this would be a good project to use to really become acquainted with Pro. I am glad that I am using Pro, I am finding that it is truly much more responsive than using the desktop. Actions that would take upwards of of half hour or more are only taking seconds. I am been able to clip every statewide layer down to the county that I am modeling first. I took me a little bit to get used to the interface, and Esri has been very accommodating to help me get off and running.

There are some quirks with the interface that I would like to see changed or added in time, but all in all I am very impressed. I am wondering what everyone else who is using Pro, what is your opinion of the product? Please give me your true thoughts.

Good job with this products usability.

Chad

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

VictoriaAnderson1 — Fri, 09 Mar 2018 23:59:53 GMT

Hi Chad,

I have had great experiences with ArcPro. Like you said, it works so much faster. I have had issues with ArcMap crashing in the past, and ArcPro seems to be doing better than ArcMap. I believe it is also more user friendly as well. There have been some glitches, however most of the ones that I have noticed have been worked out. There are some functions that are missing, but over time I believe these issues will be sorted out as well.

Victoria

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

DanPatterson_Retired — Sat, 10 Mar 2018 02:33:20 GMT

I have liked PRO for some time. I must admit that I don't have the need to make maps, but I use the analysis tools in Arctoolbox extensively. I also do a lot of programming and Python is a great language, particularly on the teaching front.

I must comment esri, on their efforts to add a channel to other open source programs like those in the SciPy stack (scipy, numpy, matplotlib etc etc), and little things the R-bridge. The only place that I think they blew it was with the ArcGIS module and bringing Pandas into the fold while skipping direct import of numpy data as well (it might make a lot of the Spatial Analyst redundant I suppose)

I have always found Pandas bloated for doing simple things with arrays, whether they be raster images, raster data or tabular data. Numpy is lurking beneath the skin and they have some good functions in the numpy to featureclass/table conversion suite, but they make it a pain to bring array data back into Pro. It isn't a game stopper, just a pain, and everyone loves pandas.

I would like esri to spend less time on the cool display stuff and put more effort into analytical and statistical tools. Shuffling that to R is catering to a particular market and missing out on opportunities as the newer generation begins to take over the helm. I have this conversation with a wall everyday, but I suppose it won't change.

I think they also should draw the line on trying to deploy all analysis in all platforms and devices. If a complex network analysis needs to be done, then do it on a standalone machine. Trying to push some of these analyses to the web might have a market, but it causes more problems than not.

I will retire, thankfully, before ArcHydro is deployed on the iPhone , but until then, if people would remember that ArcMap isn't Pro and vice-versa, then they might enjoy the good bits that both have to offer.

For now, Pro is the future, but I also thought every piece of software since the mid-70s was the future

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

KoryKramer — Sat, 10 Mar 2018 14:38:16 GMT

Chad Kopplin‌ Please let us know about

There are some quirks with the interface that I would like to see changed or added in time

You can always check the https://community.esri.com/community/arcgis-ideas?sr=search&searchId=c525b7e8-adfb-4185-8d6e-aadc43d7335b&searchIndex=0‌ site for the things you're thinking that you'd like to see added. If you don't find anything there already, submit an idea of your own. Or log an enhancement request with technical support as a way of getting your user story and request for new functionality to the development team.

Cheers,

KKramer-esristaff‌ Customer Advocacy Lead - Desktop

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

KoryKramer — Sat, 10 Mar 2018 14:41:58 GMT

Hi Victoria,

As I've commented to Chad, please make sure to share with us specifics about "some functions that are missing." While they might just happen to appear over time, that time gap will likely be shorter if we know what it is you need, why you need it (i.e. how you use the functionality), and how many other ArcGIS Pro users are requesting the same functionality. You can communicate these through the https://community.esri.com/community/arcgis-ideas?sr=search&searchId=1b78797e-eb44-4768-b0d9-eeb0cef17ad6&searchIndex=0‌ site (search to see if an idea already exists, up vote and add your story to the comments), or submit an enhancement request with technical support. We look forward to hearing more from you!

Cheers,

KKramer-esristaff‌ Customer Advocacy Lead - Desktop

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

ChadKopplin — Mon, 12 Mar 2018 16:52:16 GMT

Thank you Kory, I am just about ready to combine my layers in a model to see how Pro responds with ~9 layers being combined at the same time. The big issues that I ran into were identifying features, there was nothing to let me know where to identify. Second, I was unable to tell where to set layer transparency, I did find out how with a help search. These are miner details that once I figured them out it made using Pro just a little better. The only other thing was some of the functionality was shuffled from where I am used to seeing it on the desktop side, so, once again it was just figuring out where it is located. Last just getting used to the geoprocessing dialogue when using the tools. Thank you for your responses.

Chad

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

ChadKopplin — Mon, 12 Mar 2018 17:01:19 GMT

Thank you for the response Dan, I have always liked doing the processing on the backside and pushing out to the web. For me this would save the people that may have a limited internet speed. Here at DEQ we are starting to move into the analytical side of GIS, before I started here most analysis was done by consultants, and then we shared the product with them. Now we have the capability to most in house, it has taken a while to get to this point, but I am excited where we are heading. For this project we are using a modified version of the EPA's DRASTIC model to look at groundwater susceptibility to Nitrate contamination. In the late 90's we had a groundwater vulnerability study down that looked at the the groundwater susceptibility to pesticide contamination. I look forward to sharing the results with you all. Thank you.

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

JohnBrockwell — Tue, 13 Mar 2018 13:08:29 GMT

Have you ever set up a geoprocessing task and expect it to run and it doesn't? Hitting Run and Apply (symbology changes) is a real nuisance for new users. I'm kinda shocked how slow adoption is.

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

ChadKopplin — Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:01:51 GMT

Thank you John, the three biggest issues that I am running into are: 1. being able to click in or on a feature to select it, 2. edit the cell size when exporting a raster, and 3. when a process is running and I right click on a layer to look at the options, the option window is only about half there, once the process is finished the whole window shows. Kory this response is for Esri as well thank you.

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

ChadKopplin — Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:04:26 GMT

I agree it is getting better over time, and the issues that I have are minor and are not game stoppers. They will make the experience better if they get addressed over time.

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

ChadKopplin — Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:06:10 GMT

I have not added them to the enhancements yet, because I am not sure if the capability all ready exists and is just a bug or if they truly are enhancements.

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

KoryKramer — Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:35:50 GMT

Are you on 2.1.2?

1. Are you talking about clicking in/on a polygon? If not, please provide more details so that we can understand the issue.

2. Edit cell size when exporting a raster:

3. What kind of process? Like running a geoprocessing tool? When you say click on a layer to see options, do you mean to open the layer properties and the layer properties window is only half there, or the context menu itself is only half there? Is it cut off? If you could provide some specifics and a screenshot that would be great. Check your system resources against the ArcGIS Pro 2.1 system requirements—ArcGIS Pro | ArcGIS Desktop . And make sure that your graphics card drivers are up to date. Is the process you're running eating up much of your resources? Does the menu hang happen with all processes or only certain processes?

Thanks!

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

ChadKopplin — Wed, 14 Mar 2018 15:51:01 GMT

Thank you Kory, on the selection, I did not know I had a brain lapse, this works fine. On the raster export my export dialogue is defaulting to a smaller size, so all I see is the X and the Y, no box to change the value once I widened the dialogue everything is there. It defaults to a smaller window, once I widen it and save it keeps the new settings, if I change to auto hide, I have to widen the window again and save then it keeps the settings for the auto hide. Thank you this is good.

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

KoryKramer — Wed, 14 Mar 2018 22:10:23 GMT

Thanks for the details, Chad. Good design/usability info that I've share with the UI team.

Cheers

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

JoeBorgione — Wed, 14 Mar 2018 22:37:39 GMT

I've just been taking an online tutorial and I'm a bit underwhelmed. Yeah, it's cool that you can link to maps together and get 3D aspects, but simple things like legends and scale bars are elusive. I have to spend more time with it before I give any real reviews.

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

JohnBrockwell — Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:29:27 GMT

Legends and Scale bars are tough. You have to learn the up-down-left-right routines of Pro.

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

ChadKopplin — Thu, 15 Mar 2018 14:32:55 GMT

Thanks Joe, I have not gotten into the map layouts in ArcGIS Pro yet. I anticipated a learning curve just like with the geoprocessing. I look forward to hearing your reviews along the way, as well as helping each other with the elusiveness of some of the more common features. Thank you.

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

JoeBorgione — Thu, 15 Mar 2018 14:50:42 GMT

Like any new software, we are all at different points of the learning curve. Here is a link to my post regarding layout elements that Kory Kramer‌ answered for me; ArcGIS Pro Layout Scale Bar

It's just going to take some time to ramp up. I survived ArcInfo to ArcView and ArcView to ArcMap, and fully embrace That Which Does Not Kill Me, Makes Me Stronger.....

Re: What is your take on ArcGIS Pro

KoryKramer — Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:28:48 GMT

I like Joe Borgione‌'s perspective from March 15th,

It's just going to take some time to ramp up. I survived ArcInfo to ArcView and ArcView to ArcMap, and fully embrace That Which Does Not Kill Me, Makes Me Stronger.....

In my role, I interact a lot with our customers - some are long-time users of Esri products spanning everything that Joe mentions above, and others are learning on ArcGIS Pro. Depending on what previous experience you bring to the table, your experience with ArcGIS Pro will be different.

I wanted to chime in on this thread to make sure that those who aren't aware of all of the available resources to get started with ArcGIS Pro have a go-to list. This list is constantly growing so you'll want to check back periodically on things like learn.arcgis.com and training.esri.com. Also, stay current on the releases and check out the what's new section for each release: What's new in ArcGIS Pro 2.1—ArcGIS Pro | ArcGIS Desktop

Here’s my curated “must review” list:

For ArcMap users

Going Pro: ArcGIS Pro Essentials for ArcMap Users

Quick Start tutorials

Here’s is a more exhaustive list of resources: