topic Re: Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks? in ArcGIS Pro Questions

Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks?

MattWilkie3 — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 16:36:17 GMT

We use Concurrent Use licenses to manage our ArcMap usage. We intend to do the same for ArcGIS Pro so all of our Desktop top users, Pro and Map, are managed in the same system and the same server. Is there any reason not to convert all of our Named licenses to Concurrent? Meaning, should I keep one or two back because there’s thing X that can’t be done unless a Named license is in effect?

Re: Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks?

DanPatterson_Retired — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:19:46 GMT

Matt... you went through the licensing guide?

http://pro.arcgis.com/en/pro-app/get-started/about-licensing.htm

Re: Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks?

MattWilkie3 — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:35:44 GMT

Yes, I should have said I've gone through those pages. Thanks. I didn't notice anything that looked like "with concurrent you won't be able to ..." but I wanted to give people a chance to point something out in case I've overlooked something.

Re: Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks?

DanPatterson_Retired — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:38:50 GMT

Ok.. my org, just gives me what I want... so I wouldn't know anyway

Re: Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks?

AmnoyAm — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 20:05:22 GMT

Matt,

There are a couple key advantages for using the Named User licensing option:

1. Client machines are not tied to a particular network. Any machine that has Internet connection can use ArcGIS Pro.

2. You can run three applications simultaneously using the same account.

These are two of the key features you will lose when switching to Concurrent Use licensing option. Of course there are key advantages to using Concurrent Use licensing option as well.

Re: Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks?

MattWilkie3 — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 20:41:51 GMT

Thanks for taking the time to respond Amnoy.

Re #1, tying to a single network isn't a problem here, probably even an advantage and not a limitation, but I'm glad to have this aspect drawn out of the background detail.

Re #2, could you expand on what this means please? What 3 applications?

Re: Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks?

AmnoyAm — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 21:04:04 GMT

Named User licensing is only available for ArcGIS Pro. You log into AGOL or Portal for ArcGIS to assign ArcGIS Pro licenses to user accounts. Start and log into ArcGIS Pro with the Pro licensed account. Pro will open with the license level and extensions previously assigned to the account. You can use the same account to open up to three ArcGIS Pro applications on any device, assuming they have Internet access of course. You also have the option to take a license offline. When doing so, the license is only good for the machine you take the license offline on. You cannot use the same account to log into another session of ArcGIS Pro until the offline licenses are returned.

The following link provides additional information concerning each licensing option:

ArcGIS Desktop licensing—ArcGIS Pro | ArcGIS Desktop

Re: Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks?

MattWilkie3 — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 21:20:52 GMT

You can use the same account to open up to three ArcGIS Pro applications on any device, assuming they have Internet access of course.

So with Named license 1 machine can have 3 Pro sessions running at a time, but with Concurrent only 1 session can happen? That's a departure from ArcMap concurrent license behaviour.

At any rate, you've answered my question enough that I can make a decision, thank you.

Re: Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks?

BillFox — Mon, 23 Apr 2018 21:34:16 GMT

Mike,

For concurrent use Pro we are doing both (On premise esri license manager & AGOL) for now to cover all options.

For example, being able to test going from hybrid on-premise to ALL cloud (AGOL).

-Bill

Re: Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks?

MichaelVolz — Thu, 16 May 2019 17:15:55 GMT

Pro 2.3.x concurrent use licenses are currently managed with License Manager (LM) 2018.1. Will an upgraded LM be needed to run Pro 2.4 when it is released (e.g. 2018.2)?

Re: Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks?

KoryKramer — Thu, 16 May 2019 17:19:41 GMT

From the unreleased ArcGIS Pro 2.4 help.

"ArcGIS License Manager 2019.0 or later is required to manage ArcGIS Pro 2.4 licenses."

Re: Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks?

JTessier — Sat, 19 Jun 2021 00:36:49 GMT

@AmnoyAmcan you confirm Matt's interpretation above, that a Named User license is required to open 3 Pro sessions on the *same machine*?

Also you mention above: "Of course there are key advantages to using Concurrent Use licensing option as well. " Can you list these advantages and/or disadvantages to Named User licensing vs concurrent, as I am seeing the number of moving parts and firewall configurations between machines being an impediment here, but cant tell if the Portal needs to ever connect directly to the LM server (though it stores the server and port number) but the doc suggests they do not connect directly which is odd for it to store this info.

Thank you! and Thanks @MattWilkie3 for starting this thread, the doc is not clear on the why you'd pick one over the other.

Re: Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks?

JTessier — Sat, 19 Jun 2021 00:39:06 GMT

Note I did not mark the above as the Solution, I just subscribed to the post, seems like a bug in play in this system as I think Matt would need to mark a reply as a solution. I just asked more detailed questions. Weird.

Re: Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks?

JTessier — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:57:58 GMT

@AmnoyAm can you respond to my questions above, thanks!

Re: Pro Concurrent Use licenses, any drawbacks?

AmnoyAm — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 20:56:28 GMT

There are advantages and disadvantages to each licensing type.

The main advantage of concurrent use (CU)-single point of managing licenses, 1 license can be use by multiple users (one at a time). Users can select/deselect core and extension licenses.

Disadvantage-once a license is consumed, no one can start the application without additional licenses. Must be on the same network as the license manager.

Main advantage of named user (NU)-user will always have a license assigned. User can use Pro on up to 3 machines at the same time. Only requires Internet access when using NU license through AGOL.

The main disadvantage of the named user licensing option is that the organization must have equal or more licenses than users assigned.

In your situation, I don't see much benefit to retaining a named user license. You have to maintain the license manager for concurrent use and the licensing portal for named user. It make sense to convert them all to concurrent use. From a user's perspective, there is no difference in functionality. The user can use the tool if licenses with wither concurrent or named user licenses.