topic Curve Calculator for ArcGIS Pro in ArcGIS Pro Questions

Curve Calculator for ArcGIS Pro

JoeBorgione — Tue, 22 Jun 2021 08:32:41 GMT

We have a user that needs the functionality of the curve calculator: Calculating COGO curve parameters—Help | ArcGIS Desktop

In https://community.esri.com/ideas/13861 it is posted as 'In Product Plan': what release can we expect the curve calculator?

Kory Kramer‌

Re: Curve Calculator for ArcGIS Pro

TimHodson — Mon, 27 Jan 2020 21:26:59 GMT

Hi Joe, note that the Circular Arc tool itself has the capability to double as a curve calculator. For example, you can choose and enter the circular arc parameters in the dialog and get the blue line preview of the resulting curve shown in the map:

Changing the *values* of the parameters on the right-hand side of the dialog will update the circular arc preview to show the resulting circular arc...whereas changing any of the parameters *types* on the left side of the dialog, does NOT change the resulting curve on the preview, but it does update the values of the parameters in the dialog to reflect that same circular arc geometry for the numbers that were initially typed in. The following are screenshots of the curve calculations for this example:

Does this help for your scenario?

-Tim

Re: Curve Calculator for ArcGIS Pro

JoeBorgione — Mon, 27 Jan 2020 23:08:56 GMT

Thanks Tim- I'm not sure if it'll work or not. I'm posting for a colleague, but I'll let him know.

Re: Curve Calculator for ArcGIS Pro

AmirBar-Maor — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 08:52:41 GMT

Hello Joe,

Could you please describe:

1. When the Curve Calculator is used?

2. Why is it used?

This would be very helpful for us.

Thanks,

Amir

Re: Curve Calculator for ArcGIS Pro

DanPatterson_Retired — Sat, 11 Dec 2021 18:01:54 GMT

Construction of curves aside... what about deriving curve properties from existing geometry.

Currently curve parameters seem to be buried and you have to delve elsewhere to get sufficient information to derive them. I posted a blog on an example of buffering this week and last week on svg representation of geometry. Here is an example of what you get back when you buffer a triangle. There is no property listed and no other direct methods to acquire the curve parameters.

The shapes are still listed as a singlepart shape, you get new from-to points. The listing of the resultant has no other properties, so if you want to derive curve parameters you have to back from how JSON produces their curve rings or more recently, parse apart the SVG point representation of the curve.

The parameters must exist so why not expose the curve parameter at the shape level.

 p_1[0]
<Array [<Point (300020.0, 5000000.0, #, #)>,
        <Point (300020.0, 5000010.0, #, #)>,
        <Point (300030.0, 5000005.0, #, #)>,
        <Point (300020.0, 5000000.0, #, #)>]>

b = p_1.buffer(2)

b[0]
<Array [<Point (300020.34729999956, 4999998.0304000005, #, #)>,
        <Point (300018.0, 5000000.0, #, #)>,
        <Point (300018.0, 5000010.0, #, #)>,
        <Point (300020.89439999964, 5000011.788899999, #, #)>,
        <Point (300030.89439999964, 5000006.788899999, #, #)>,
        <Point (300030.89439999964, 5000003.211100001, #, #)>,
        <Point (300021.0007999996, 4999998.2663, #, #)>,
        <Point (300020.89269999973, 4999998.2147, #, #)>,
        <Point (300020.68400000036, 4999998.1206, #, #)>,
        <Point (300020.34729999956, 4999998.0304000005, #, #)>]>‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍

Re: Curve Calculator for ArcGIS Pro

JoeBorgione — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 15:14:14 GMT

Amir- I can hardly spell COGO, so I can't answer your questions; I'll forward this post to my colleague and see what he has to say....

Re: Curve Calculator for ArcGIS Pro

AmirBar-Maor — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 15:20:42 GMT

Thanks Dan,

I would suggest you submit a seperate idea to expose curve parameters at the shape level (Entry Direction, Exit direction, Radius, ArcLength, Chord, central angle, Tangent Bearings, Center point location, Mid point location, side: R/L).

I would think that it would also be useful to expose in Arcade for Attribute Rules, Labeling and Symbology.

The above might work for true curves. If you want to fit a true curve to given geometry there is already a Geoprocessing tool for that called Simplify By Straight Lines And Circular Arcs

Re: Curve Calculator for ArcGIS Pro

deleted-user-0lz4ox02rPRC — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:11:51 GMT

Amir,

Joe was asking the question for me. I was looking for the calculator as we had some complicated tangents in a legal description we were trying to map and that was the only recommended tool I was able to locate to calculate some of these. It looks like using the Circular Arc may be the answer I needed. We had a colleague that was at least able to map the description in ArcMap so now I just need to translate that to ArcPro so we know how to do these in the future. Thanks for your help!

Re: Curve Calculator for ArcGIS Pro

TimHodson — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 18:15:58 GMT

Travis, thanks for the follow up. Since you mention tangency, note that the Circular Arc tool in Pro has some additional functionality for that as well. While using the Two-Point line tool, you can switch to the Tangent Curve segment tool, and snap to the end of an existing line feature. Then when you start the Circular arc tool the direction parameter defaults to Tangent type and the tangent direction value is automatically calculated from the geometry of the existing line feature that you snapped to, and that value is placed in the direction entry field as the default.

Re: Curve Calculator for ArcGIS Pro

AmirBar-Maor — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 18:54:22 GMT

Assuming your legal description is a 'Metes and Bounds' description, you can also use the Traverse tool to enter curves with Tangent bearings. Benefits of using the traverse tool are mostly: review the misclose ratio, review the calculated COGO area and adjust the misclose between all courses.

Use this link to learn more:

Create a traverse—ArcGIS Pro | ArcGIS Desktop - General topic

All the tips and tricks you need including a section on Curve Overrides - https://pro.arcgis.com/en/pro-app/help/editing/enter-a-traverse.htm

Curves described on a plat or plan may not conform to a single set of curve parameters, such as radius and arc length. Use the following shortcuts to override curve parameters in the Direction, Radius, Arc Length, Chord Length, and Delta Angle fields:

Override	Keystroke	Use in grid field	Example
Tangent bearing curve	tb or TB	Direction	41-56-06-4tb (using quadrant bearing)
Radial bearing curve	rb or RB	Direction	41-56-06rb (using north azimuth and degrees-minutes-seconds)
Chord bearing curve	cb or CB	Direction	41-56-06cb (using north azimuth and degrees-minutes-seconds)
Chord length	c or C	Arc Length and Delta Angle	25.01c
Delta (central angle)	d or D	Arc Length and Chord Length	90-59-59d
Arc length	A or a	Chord Length and Delta Angle	25.01a