topic Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro in ArcGIS Pro Questions

Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

PeteJordan — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 16:08:58 GMT

I have a set of highway symbols that we use in ArcMap (DDVCO series, especially the DDVco5e). These show up fine in Arcmap, but when I'm trying to import a map into Pro they give the default characters and not actually the Font used for the highway symbols, despite having the font loaded and is seen in ArcMap the way it should.

I'm also tried to just import the *.style into Pro and that does the same exact thing as importing a *.mxd into Pro with these symbols.

I know there are a number of older posts on here about this, and the most recent one was still 2 years ago (.style to .stylx confusion (ArcPro)). I am using 2.4 and for the life of me I can't figure out how to get the symbols *.style to recognize the fonts.

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

Robert_LeClair — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:10:22 GMT

Pete - I have the DDV CO style files zipped/local on disk. To use them in AGP, I first install the *.ttf's to my C:\Windows\Fonts, then started a new AGP Pro Project and imported a *.mxd that had a DDV symbol in it. The symbol did not import as expected as it's technically a graphic from the Draw toolbar. ArcMap graphics are not supported in AGP. In the Catalog Pane in AGP, I imported the ddvco5e.style into the Styles folder. In a layout, I was able to add a point graphic, go to it's properties and change the symbol to a DDV symbol. I wonder if you need to reinstall the *.ttf's???

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

PeteJordan — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:39:18 GMT

Strange as that's all I ended up doing too and the symbols in symbology still show up with the wrong characters. I have actually reinstalled the TTF's several times thinking maybe that's what the issue was, but didn't make any difference, even after rebooting.

What years does yours show for your Version of the files? My TTF states it's version 4.1 from Macromedia Fontographer from 2004. But I downloaded a set from another link on the forums here and it didn't make any difference either. Since I can still see them fine in ArcMap that makes me think it can't be the fonts at all or I'd have issues in that (I did just recently get a new computer, so just set up the fonts for ArcMap as well last week without issues.).

I just reinstalled all of them again and tested it out just to see and get the same issue with all the DDV fonts in Pro. The only thing I can think of is there's a newer version out there, but I'm not finding them at all?

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

PeteJordan — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 17:47:56 GMT

As a test, I tried it out and added it to his computer which is older and it worked just fine. So there's something weird with my new computer and fonts which is very strange as they exist in the font's folder. I may have to check on IT or something. I even on his machine and found where the temp *.stylex file was and copied that to another drive to see if that worked, and nothing. However I've downloaded some of ESRI's custom stylex from the website and they also include fonts it looks like and they are accessible and work just fine, so no idea why this isn't at all, unless it had something to do with me originally importing a *.mxd and it somehow hard coded that font weird. Don't know if there's a repair Pro or something like that as I'd rather not reinstall it if I can help it...

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

PeteJordan — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 21:14:35 GMT

Found the issue. The fonts are installed to the PC font folder, but they don't get installed to the Arc Pro Font folder

(Threat about Fonts) as was described here. So it wasn't a computer issue or a font issue, but rather something that needs to be done manually...

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

Robert_LeClair — Tue, 26 Nov 2019 17:05:06 GMT

Hi Pete - glad it all worked out and you're able to use the DDV CO symbols in AGP. When I was a consultant years ago (before working for Esri), I used these files all the time for my maps. All the best!

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

PeteJordan — Wed, 27 Nov 2019 13:30:32 GMT

Hey Robert, yeah we still use them all the time and I was worried I'd have to try and make them all from scratch. It was good to finally find out it wasn't the actual Font that was the issue. Now if someone can't can't another font they used to use in Pro to work, I now know how to solve it...

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

Robert_LeClair — Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:10:52 GMT

Hey Pete - excellent - sounds good. Years ago when DDV ceased to exist/create/update the highway shields, a customer was in a panic looking for several States highway shields. I found a website that had all 50 States archived and I downloaded them locally should I or a customer ever need them again. The shields are fantastic, easy to use and really make one's maps "pop"! Have a great holiday weekend!

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

PeteJordan — Wed, 27 Nov 2019 16:04:46 GMT

I found a link to a site that had them all since the guy at DDV retired. Still pretty cool after over a decade and a half, they are still being utilized all over the nation by people. Also makes me wonder why they haven't been incorporated by ESRI. You have a good holiday weekend too (I'll try and rescue mine as my flight to Europe was cancelled due to the bad weather we just had yesterday, ugh)...

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

Robert_LeClair — Wed, 27 Nov 2019 16:10:14 GMT

Agree - great symbols and definitely used all across the nation. It WOULD be nice if Esri incorporated these into the Platform. Did a quick check on AGOL/Portal in AGP to see if anyone had uploaded the style file up to the cloud - nope. Not sure how the upload would incorporate the *.ttf as well - I may play with the CO shields today to see if it's possible. That stinks about your canceled flight to Europe - good luck with Plan B! I'm in Denver, CO and we received a TON of snow. 16" at the Esri Regional office in Broomfield, CO and 20'+ in the Boulder foothills.

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

PeteJordan — Wed, 27 Nov 2019 16:30:57 GMT

Ahh we got hit too (and a snow day as well). I work for DRCOG downtown Denver. I've noticed people requesting those Symbols for other states too, so it's a pretty big thing and perfect standard for all sorts of maps. I just found it odd Pro has it's own font folder. I wonder if there's a way for someone to edit the *.TTF files to also install them in the Arc Pro's font folder as well. Much like the ESRI fonts you can download do?

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

Robert_LeClair — Wed, 27 Nov 2019 17:53:44 GMT

Not sure why AGP has it's own font folder either. I suspect the AGP developers have a reason why but I'm not privy to that.

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

PeteJordan — Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:25:14 GMT

My only guess why it has it's own folder is to keep the Computers Font Folder less cluttered and more manageable or something to have their own. It's just that of course any fonts downloaded from ESRI will install it there, but older fonts like the Highway ones of course wouldn't have that capability. Just one of those things people need to realize when trying to use any older Fonts they may have created or downloaded from older or other sources...

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

DominickCisson — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 22:37:39 GMT

Would you or Robert mind sharing that link? I'm in Colorado as well and have what I think is a complete set of the CO highway symbols, as well as some other DDV fonts that Jim Mossman did back in the day. It's crazy to think that most of these fonts were created back between 2003 - 2005, and also sad that they have largely disappeared from the Internet entirely. I know Esri used to keep some of them on what used to be the "ArcScripts" site, but that's long gone too. I'd like to fill out my collection of these before they disappear forever.

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

PeteJordan — Fri, 14 Feb 2020 15:06:57 GMT

Dominick: I just Googled any one of the TTF files such as "DDVCO01E.TTF" and found the website, but I just did that now and can't find it anymore. I figured the original PDF would have a link, but it only shows the email address when searching for that "ddvgis@bresnan.net" I am also unable to pull anything up with the highway symbols, just another pdf with other symbols that are similar, but no web address.

So seems like it's off the web now which sucks. So hold on to what you have and I'm going to have to do the same here. Still it's very strange there isn't a standard out there that has all these fonts and such for easy download, or if there is, I am unaware of it...

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

SteveCole — Fri, 14 Feb 2020 16:05:19 GMT

Here is the ZIP file for the Washington State symbols. It's not a help for those of you looking for the Colorado ones but maybe others can contribute what they have.

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

Robert_LeClair — Fri, 14 Feb 2020 21:52:54 GMT

Dominick/Steve/Pete - email me your email addresses to rleclair@esri.com - I have all 50 DDV States. I downloaded them years ago when ArcScripts and other sites were going down. They were too good to be lost to the electrons.

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

Robert_LeClair — Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:13:43 GMT

One of my fellow Esri Instructors found the DDV highway shields on GitHub -

https://github.com/VerdantSkys/DDVs_ALL

Enjoy!

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

AmandaJX — Thu, 09 Dec 2021 01:35:07 GMT

Would you mind sharing your CO highway symbols.

edit: I actually found them down the feed a little.

Re: Highway Symbols from DDV Issue in Pro

Steve_Moore76 — Fri, 25 Oct 2024 21:47:00 GMT

Hi, I'm using the NV (Nevada) style files from the github site you linked and now converted to .stylx files in ArcPro. I don't have admin privileges so I can't install fonts per se. I can copy them into my user windows font folder, but not here: C:\Program Files\ArcGIS\Pro\Resources\Fonts as was recommended by a YouTube video I watched on the subject (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjvLLYcsvCI). I recently imported all the styles for my state I could find, but some don't register? properly and the symbol font goes back to the default Arial font. It's odd that most of my state's styles work and link to the proper ddv.ttf font, but try as I might, not all of them do. Some include a "d" in the file name (ddvnv02d.style) and some include a "f" (ddvnv02f.style). I could "brute force" guess on most of the symbols, but it would be easier to have a guide to follow to map the correct characters. Do you have any clues to pass along or do I just give up?