topic Re: Can I reset conda to installation state? in ArcGIS Pro Questions

Can I reset conda to installation state?

EvanThoms — Wed, 24 Jun 2020 22:10:26 GMT

With a new install of Pro 2.5, I have, between trying to manage environments at the command line and through the Package Manager, kludged up my conda. When I open the Package Manager now, the Project Environment window is blank and when I try to activate arcgispro-py3 (the only environment I have remaining at this point), the progress bar at the bottom of the dialog just scrolls and scrolls and the message remains 'Restart ArcGIS Pro for your environment changes to take place'. Of course, closing everything, apparently mid-process, and restarting does nothing.

Another thing that happens is that after a computer restart %localappdata%\ESRI\conda\envs\proenv.txt has the path to an environment I have removed and when I open the Python Command Prompt, conda is not available as a program. When I manually change that to arcgispro-py3, I can open the prompt and it's all good but that manual edit to proenv.txt does not stick. Something else writes it after a reboot. What process writes that file and where does it remember the environment?

Barring that, because these are all changes that I made as a non-admin user, is there something I can do to just wipe the slate and get me back to the original state of the conda installation?

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

JoeBorgione — Wed, 24 Jun 2020 22:29:38 GMT

If it were me, I'd remove ArcGIS Pro 2.5 and start from there....

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

DanPatterson — Wed, 24 Jun 2020 22:32:53 GMT

You don't have admin rights to your computer?

Can you use conda?

If you are using Pro, can you delete your other environments using the package manager?

Can you uninstall/repair you installation?

Some starter questions to assess what you can and can't do

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

DanPatterson — Wed, 24 Jun 2020 22:36:06 GMT

Joe Borgione‌ that doesn't remove everything, admin rights, cleaning out user profiles etc are more important. New computer is an option too

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

EvanThoms — Wed, 24 Jun 2020 22:41:05 GMT

That's right, I don't have admin rights. I would need help from IT to uninstall or do a repair.

I can use conda.

I deleted the other environments using conda.

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

DanPatterson — Wed, 24 Jun 2020 22:56:54 GMT

Can you activate your default conda environment either through the package manager or through Pro?

If so, that is good.

If not, then what environment are you in? (check this through conda or through Project, Python, Manage Environments )

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

EvanThoms — Wed, 24 Jun 2020 23:07:54 GMT

When the contents of %localappdata%\ESRI\conda\envs\proenv.txt is

C:\ArcGIS\Pro\bin\Python\envs\arcgispro-py3

the Python Command Prompt opens as expected:

(arcgispro-py3) C:\ArcGIS\Pro\bin\Python\envs\arcgispro-py3>

But I can't switch to that in Pro; that's when Pro churns.

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

DanPatterson — Sat, 11 Dec 2021 14:52:09 GMT

(arcgispro-py3) C:\arc_pro\bin\Python\envs\arcgispro-py3>conda info --envs
# conda environments:
#
arcgispro-py3         *  C:\arc_pro\bin\Python\envs\arcgispro-py3
root                     C:\arc_pro\bin\Python


(arcgispro-py3) C:\arc_pro\bin\Python\envs\arcgispro-py3>‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍

What does yours say? c:\arc_pro is where I have Pro installed so do the mental substitution.

If your active environment is something other than

....\bin\Python\envs\arcgispro-py3

do this to activate the base environment in conda

>activate arcgispro-py3‍

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

EvanThoms — Wed, 24 Jun 2020 23:22:30 GMT

And I can use conda to re-create the clone of arcgispro-py3 that is being remembered, add that path to proenv.txt, and the Package Manage will open pointing to that environment, but I still cannot switch to another environment in Pro.

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

EvanThoms — Sat, 11 Dec 2021 14:52:12 GMT

Dan, I have

(arcgispro-py3) C:\ArcGIS\Pro\bin\Python\envs\myclone>conda env list
# conda environments:
#
arcgispro-py3    * C:\ArcGIS\Pro\bin\Python\envs\arcgispro-py3
myclone            C:\ArcGIS\Pro\bin\Python\envs\myclone
root               C:\ArcGIS\Pro\bin\Python‍‍‍‍‍‍

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

DanPatterson — Wed, 24 Jun 2020 23:43:24 GMT

then don't mess with proenv.txt and

>activate arcgispro-py3

because you are in the clone now.

At least get back to Pro not croaking.

Either use the package manager or conda.

I don't mix. (in fact I don't clone... but that is another story... look up my twin's posts

/blogs/dan_patterson/2020/02/09/clone-arcgis-pro-25 I think even Joe Borgione‌ can vouch for him )

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

EvanThoms — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 00:32:04 GMT

Dan, I appreciate the help. I think I will have to call in support.

I can activate the default environment from the command line, and be in that directory, but I still cannot get Pro there. It simply will not forget that myclone environment and I can't get it to switch to anything else.

As a regular user, this is annoying because you can, after all, install and fiddle with Anaconda without admin rights and it seems like any caching that Pro might be doing to remember the last environment it was connected to should be in the user profile, which could be simply deleted. Oh well. This give me more reason to go to 2.5.1

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

JoeBorgione — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 11:49:27 GMT

This has been an intresting discussion; I've never even looked at the proenv.txt file. For ArcGIS Pro, I've only created clones using Pro. In fact just the other day something goofed in the clone I I use in Pro so I deleted it and recloned. I never have undertood the reasoning that locks down package adding through Pro to the default env when you can just add a package there with conda. A lot of it is a mystery to me...

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

EvanThoms — Sat, 11 Dec 2021 14:52:14 GMT

For crying out loud...it's very similar to the numpy problem that others have been reporting since v 2.2

Problem: Unable to create environments or install packages after upgrading to ArcGIS Pro 2.2

(I couldn't follow the solution there because there were no other folders in \pkgs other than cache, even if I had permissions to delete them)

I finally learned about and looked at %localappdata%\ESRI\conda\conda_debug.log:

DEBUG:__main__:conda.cli.main called with ('C:\\ArcGIS\\Pro\\bin\\Python\\Scripts\\conda.exe', 'proswap', '-p', 'C:\\ArcGIS\\Pro\\bin\\Python\\envs\\myclone', '--json')
Setting environment CONDA_ROOT to C:\ArcGIS\Pro\bin\Python
Setting environment CONDA_PREFIX to C:\Users\ethoms\AppData\Local\ESRI\conda\envs\arcgispro-py3-clone
Setting environment CONDARC to C:\ArcGIS\Pro\bin\Python\.condarc
proswap: Writing C:\Users\ethoms\AppData\Local\ESRI\conda\envs\arcgispro-py3-clone as C:\Users\ethoms\AppData\Local\ESRI\conda\envs\proenv.txt
proswap: by prefix environment
proswap: The environment C:\ArcGIS\Pro\bin\Python\envs\myclone doesn't contain NumPy, which is required for ArcGIS Pro.‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍

Listing the packages in the environments I see that all environments have numpy-base, but only when selecting arcgispro-py3 in the PM does this get interpreted, apparently, as numpy. For all others, an entry like above is generated. It's beyond my time and energy to investigate why. My workaround is to install numpy from the conda CLI. After doing that I can switch to a cloned environment in the PM and everything looks good. Yes, it means that the environment has numpy and numpy-base with the exact same version number, but I don't understand how these differ.

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

DanPatterson — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 20:35:14 GMT

I suspect the clone was not good. ArcGIS Pro depends on numpy. If the clone didn't have numpy-base, then the clone wasn't any good, hence your problems.

Mixing conda and package manager if you don't have full admin rights isn't recommended, one of the reasons that we disallowed cloning in our teaching labs, and we installed what we need in the base installation... no clones. Clones were intended to make it so if things went bad, you would have a fallback. The fall back is a complete uninstall and reinstall from the downloaded msi.

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

JoeBorgione — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 20:42:50 GMT

The fall back is a complete uninstall and reinstall from the downloaded msi.

Like I was sayin'....

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

DanPatterson — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 20:49:26 GMT

plus all the other stuff I mentioned after that Joe (aka users folders, conda folder, etc etc)

Re: Can I reset conda to installation state?

EvanThoms — Thu, 25 Jun 2020 21:01:56 GMT

Yeah, lesson learned. I hadn't worked with environments through Pro before; I just knew you could manage them at the prompt, so that's where I went first. I didn't even know about the Package Manager until I got this version.