idea In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB in ArcGIS Pro Ideas

In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

JohannaKraus1 — Thu, 08 Dec 2022 22:26:09 GMT

ArcMap allows users to edit unversioned data in an enterprise geodatabase and choose whether edits will be automatically saved after each edit or evoke a formal edit session during which edits are stored before being committed/saved to the underlying database (giving users the ability to discard or undo unwanted edits). There are good reasons for maintaining unversioned data in an enterprise database and for being able to discard/undo edits – users should not have to choose between the two.

Please give users the option of a formal edit formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise geodatabase in ArcGIS PRO.

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

HeatherStanton — Fri, 26 May 2017 15:46:46 GMT

This is a pretty big deal-breaker at my company. I hope this gets resolved.

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

RyanPaquette1 — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 19:21:18 GMT

I just posted an idea (ArcGIS Pro - Edit Session) separate from this one, however I am seeing that they could technically be merged. The difference being that we would be looking to establish formal edit sessions for unversioned data in any other storage scenario; i.e. File Geodatabase, Shape File on disk.

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

JakubSisak — Thu, 13 Dec 2018 16:14:54 GMT

Yep. Can't believe this is not possible yet. (running 2.3 beta)

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

MalcolmJ — Wed, 01 May 2019 04:54:12 GMT

We need this as an option before we can stop using ArcMap. This is one of the last things holding us back now!

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

MicheleH1_DNReply — Wed, 15 May 2019 05:09:57 GMT

This is a nightmare! I've been in the GIS game for over 20 years so I'm not late to the party and I've just accidentally deleted a polygon out of an unversioned SDE feature class in ArcPro! How is this even possible? It's unversioned for a reason! And because it's unversioned the changes are permanent - straight away! I can't undo and discarding my edits makes no difference. I've just spent the last 1/2 hour desperately looking for a copy of the data somewhere hoping that someone somewhere has ignored all my years of pleading with people to not take a copy of the data unless they absolutely need to as we don't want different versions of the same data all over the place.

If data is unversioned there should be a deliberate process that you have to go through in order to be able to edit it. Not just accidentally select a polygon underneath the one you clicked on and then hey presto - it's gone! I was editing data in a file geodatabase - not even another layer in SDE. What if I was zoomed in and didn't realise that's what I had done? It could be weeks before someone alerts me to the fact that it's gone.

This is the worst failing of ArcPro that I've come across so far.

This needs to be fixed - and soon.

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

venaktesa_kumarNatarajan — Mon, 22 Jul 2019 23:09:36 GMT

Until ESRI fix this bug, ArcGIS Pro is truly ArcGIS pro desktop only not enterprise version.

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

DavidWheelock2 — Mon, 07 Oct 2019 20:40:09 GMT

This is a grave limitation and is certainly in the running for most significant problem with ArcGIS Pro. It's like walking a tight-wire without the net that we have always had in ArcMap. We need to get some momentum going with this one.

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Also, I think this idea should be differently named. Perhaps it should be be named something like:

Allow users to close ArcGIS Pro edit session without saving edits to unversioned data.
Require confirmation before saving edits to unversioned data.

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

JeffThomasILM — Thu, 19 Dec 2019 17:45:07 GMT

I'd love to hear some feedback from Esri. This shouldn't even need to be an "idea" - it's important functionality from ArcMap missing from Pro! Editing nonversioned data is explicitly not possible unless you change a setting.

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

JeffHaney — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 15:45:18 GMT

Transactions are Database 101!

We are finally getting new hardware to be able to run Pro and have started serious testing and just ran into this issue. The majority of our project databases don't need to be versioned and requiring that overhead to ensure we can undo an edit is ridiculous.

Our data is unversioned because we don't have long edit transactions, parcel fabrics, or network topologies. What we do have is integration into larger systems and we don't want the hassle of reconcile/post or move to base processes. I still have to remind our developers to use the archive views instead of base tables and that is much more straightforward.

We can live with UI changes and all the random slowness of Pro, but live editing of data with no undo is a show stopper.

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

MPC_KineticGIS_Department — Tue, 04 Feb 2020 01:27:07 GMT

Another Tried and failed you the append tool on a map you download from ArcGIS online with hosted feature layers. The Geoprocessing tool Fails because it needs to be in an edit session??? Tick the check box to allow undo and start "an edit session" The Geoprocessing tool Fails because it needs to be in an edit session???

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

JohnNergeBrooklynPark — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:37:53 GMT

Nothing to add that hasn't already been said, just echoing support for this idea. Like others here, it's the one thing holding us back from a full scale Pro adoption.

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

RufaroKaseke — Thu, 24 Dec 2020 00:19:16 GMT

Echoing my support for this idea as well. Ran into this issue today and it's very frustrating.

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

GIS_MJ — Thu, 04 Feb 2021 21:05:38 GMT

I can't believe this hasn't been developed yet! I'm here to support this idea. ArcMap is still necessary without this functionality in PRO.

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

KeithAddison1 — Wed, 07 Jul 2021 17:32:23 GMT

This is a sickening situation.

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

BrianOevermann — Mon, 12 Jul 2021 21:32:40 GMT

Seems short sighted that we cannot create a "local" transaction that is not committed until we invoke a save. I anxiously await this capability.

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

DavidCarpenter — Mon, 16 Aug 2021 15:09:52 GMT

We are just about to deploy ArcGIS Pro 2.8.2 to the masses since the writing is on the wall for ArcMap and we need Pro for some of the newer Esri solutions we are looking to implement. The fact that you are prompted to Save and review edits when working with File Geodatabases or Feature Services but not the Enterprise Geodatabase is truly insane. Over the weekend we just had a very capable user who was under a serious time crunch doing selections and edits accidentally delete data from multiple layers, he eventually noticed what was happening and is now searching backups to fix his mistakes.

Surely it can't be hard at a minimum to just expand the existing Save and Review functionality over to non-versioned Feature Classes in an Enterprise geodatabase? Editing of any kind needs to be treated seriously and follow a formal workflow, at the end of the day we lived with clicking a Start Editing button this long and it wasn't that bad. This needs to be changed ASAP...like 2.8.3 ASAP.

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB - Status changed to: Under Consideration

JonathanMurphy — Mon, 16 Aug 2021 17:16:43 GMT

We’re moving the status of this request to Under Consideration as the development team has an item for this work in their backlog. To respond to the question about the level of effort, this will require a substantial amount of development work. Since that work has not yet started, this functionality will not be in ArcGIS Pro 2.9. We will update this idea’s status to In Product Plan when we have a higher level of certainty on when the development work can be prioritized into a release. We hope that sharing this update helps inform your decisions about moving editing workflows to ArcGIS Pro. Thank you

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

DavidCarpenter — Mon, 16 Aug 2021 17:38:50 GMT

Thanks so much for the response Jonathan, much appreciated. I am glad to know you folks are looking into this, it has always been a point we questioned as we dabbled with Pro over the years but now that we are ready to implement having these experiences brought the concern to forefront.

Re: In ArcGIS PRO allow formal edit sessions for unversioned data in an enterprise GDB

ChrisScheiner — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 12:33:27 GMT

Really glad to see this getting attention, and to see the status change!