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Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

ZoevdbAT — Fri, 07 Jan 2022 13:48:48 GMT

When creating a hosted feature layer view the following is stated:
You can overwrite the hosted feature layer from which the view was created to refresh the data only if the following are true:
- The parent hosted feature layer was published from a file in ArcGIS Online, not from ArcGIS Pro or ArcMap.
- The hosted feature layer view was not generated by the Join Features analysis tool.
- You did not define an area of interest on the view.

The first point needs to be looked at. At the moment you can't publish a layer from Pro, make views from the hosted feature layer in ArcGISOnline and then use Pro again to overwrite the hosted feature layer to refresh the data of the parent hosted FL.
When using the overwrite web layer tool in ArcGIS Pro it tries to delete all the related service items. Which it can't because there are views created from the parent layer.
StatusMessage: Server Response: ERROR: code:400, Unable to delete item. This service item has a related Service item, Bad syntax in request.

However you CAN publish from a FGDB (or any other file) in Online or use FME to publish. It really stuns me that you can't use ArcGIS Pro for this.
So please take it into consideration to fix this!

Kind regards,

Zoë

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

jcarlson — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 13:35:13 GMT

When you publish from Pro, the application creates a service definition item in AGOL. In order to overwrite a hosted layer, the original source file needs to be re-uploaded in the same format as before, whether it be a shapefile, FGDB, or service definition.

The inverse of the situation you describe is also not possible. If you publish a layer from Pro, you will be unable to overwrite that with any file-based source like shapefiles, etc.

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

ZoevdbAT — Fri, 07 Jan 2022 08:20:32 GMT

Thank you for your response. I hear what you're saying, it needs to be re-uploaded in the same format and it isn't possible to overwrite with any kind of file-base source no matter how you overwrite it (FME, Pro or in AGOL). Right?

However I want to be able to overwrite my hosted feature layer in (if necessary) the same format and through ArcGIS Pro.

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

KaraUtter — Wed, 08 Jun 2022 16:31:43 GMT

I am having an issue with this as well. I'm not understanding why we can't have views published and overwrite the layers in the same manner we published them in. It makes for a very non-streamlined approach when needing to completely overwrite something when the append/update process won't work. This means we have to actually delete all of our views on a layer to update completely and then recreate them. Very terrible workflow.

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

TomNeer — Fri, 10 Jun 2022 20:06:01 GMT

This is a major flaw of the "tight" integration of ArcGIS Pro with Portal for ArcGIS.

The only simple way to change the symbology of a Hosted Feature Layer is through the items "Visualization" tab. However, this is Visualization interface is based on the ArcGIS API for JavaScript 3.x which is currently planned to reach end-of-life next year.

The only path I see right now is to create a map in the new Map Viewer. Crack open the map in AGOL Assistant, extract the Renderer object, open the Item in AGOL Assistant and insert the Renderer object. Optionally, you could go through the ArcGIS Server Admin interface and do this too.

Could we pass on Migrating from 3.x to 4.22 | Overview | ArcGIS API for JavaScript 4.23 | ArcGIS Developer to the Portal for ArcGIS developers?

This is a major design flaw of using Hosted Feature Layers in Portal for ArcGIS.

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

EmikoCondeso — Mon, 13 Jun 2022 21:29:30 GMT

I agree this is very problematic--and not an easy problem to find. I have been updating my hosted feature layer from ArcPro (that has an associated view) for a year. I recently made a new view tied to this feature layer that was set up for offline use, and that's when my most recent update to the parent layer from ArcPro gave me the error (ERROR: code:400, Unable to delete item).

This is a big problem for those of us who manage layers in Pro and need to push updates to AGOL.

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

ZoevdbAT — Mon, 04 Jul 2022 10:57:24 GMT

Hi all,

I found something that might be a workaround for this problem we all stumbled upon.

Swap the source of a hosted feature layer view—ArcGIS Online Help | Documentation

I haven't tried it yet, but with this you can update your hosted layer and your views as you wish. Not directly from Pro and you have to update each view, but atleast you can update your domains, fields and data (I think).

Please share your experience if you've tried!

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

Esad — Tue, 05 Jul 2022 16:47:38 GMT

I removed the view from ArcGIS Online but I still cannot overwrite the service. I do not see any views on ArcGIS Pro. Does anybody have any solution?

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

KaraUtter — Tue, 05 Jul 2022 16:55:28 GMT

Maybe append data to layers to edit the feature layer instead of overwriting? This does not mean append in the typical definition that we are used to - here is the documentation for reference:

Manage hosted feature layers—ArcGIS Online Help | Documentation

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

Esad — Tue, 05 Jul 2022 21:59:39 GMT

Thanks for the workaround, Kara. It works fine that way yes, however, I had python scripts that run daily to update map services. And each map service has multiple layers. I am not sure if this append data is available through REST or Python API. I will be searching for those and again thanks.

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

KaraUtter — Wed, 06 Jul 2022 15:35:57 GMT

@Esad You're welcome. Hopefully you can figure it out! Actually, hopefully ESRI develops a way for us to overwrite hosted feature services that have views associated. That would be the most efficient and streamlined solution.

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

Esad — Wed, 06 Jul 2022 16:14:49 GMT

@KaraUtter I hope the same. Found out that append is available through Python or REST API but if several map services with multiple layers need to be updated, the append gets a bit complicated.

So for a workaround, I wrote a script that:

1 - Creates a temporary file geodatabase,
2 - Exports the data from SDE to the temp FGDB
3 - Publishes the map to AGO.

Hope it gives some idea to whoever looks for a solution with scripting.

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

NvF — Mon, 12 Dec 2022 17:04:31 GMT

Agreed, this should be corrected. Also, it took me quite a bit of time to figure out that item #1, as noted by the OP, was the reason why all of my symbology/popups refused to update appropriately. Very frustrating for users, ESRI.

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro - Status changed to: Needs Clarification

JonahLay — Mon, 27 Mar 2023 22:53:31 GMT

Hi everyone,

Thank you for the feedback on this idea. Publishing a layer from Pro, creating a view from the hosted feature layer in ArcGIS Online, then using Pro to overwrite the web layer is a supported workflow that should work.

Since it appears that there may be an issue with overwriting layers with views, can you elaborate on when this issue occurs? What specific steps are you taking? Providing more information will help us determine what needs to be addressed.

Thank you!

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

MelAlexander — Fri, 12 May 2023 14:15:11 GMT

@JonahLay I'm having this issue as well.

I have data that I am publishing to our enterprise and sharing with a group of other editors. I then make a view layer with editing disabled and share it with a group of viewers.

When I try to overwrite the published layer (either adding rows or adding fields), I get an error and then both the published layer and the view layer will no longer draw on a map. I can delete the view layer, but the original published layer seems to be broken so badly that I cant even delete it anymore, they have to me sequestered to an archive folder.

I'd be happy to screenshare to expedite a fix for this issue.

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

JonahLay — Mon, 22 May 2023 17:09:28 GMT

@MelAlexander Thank you for your comments. Have you reached out to technical support? They may be able to pinpoint the cause of the issue to assist in determining a solution.

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

BrittanyBurson — Sat, 03 Feb 2024 18:00:52 GMT

Tossing a comment in that it would be helpful to be able to overwrite while also supporting views.

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

gcGIS — Wed, 03 Apr 2024 13:22:01 GMT

Hosted Feature Service Views/Join views are fantastic - but very problematic when you can't overwrite the base feature service or change the schema.

@JonahLay- can we change this from needing clarification? It's a known limitation and a valid Idea!

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro

JonahLay — Tue, 16 Apr 2024 18:40:32 GMT

To help us reproduce the issue, it would be great if anyone can provide more information. Specifically, we'd like to know the following:

Are you sharing to ArcGIS Online or ArcGIS Enterprise? What version of Pro are you using?
When you share the web feature layer, what settings do you configure? (i.e. sync, editing, sharing to groups...)
What settings do you enable when creating the view in ArcGIS Online/Enterprise?
What changes do you make to the map/layer in Pro before overwriting?
Do you make any changes to the view?

Any repro steps you can provide will help us investigate this problem. Thank you.

Re: Overwrite a hosted feature layer with views in Pro when the parent hosted feature layer is published from a file in ArcGIS Pro - Status changed to: Already Offered

JonahLay — Thu, 06 Jun 2024 20:44:10 GMT

Thanks to all of you who commented on this idea. As previously mentioned in this thread, this workflow is already supported. If you are experiencing issues overwriting web feature layer with views using ArcGIS Pro, please message me privately so that we can troubleshoot the behavior.

Best,

Jonah