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Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

MikePrice — Mon, 03 Apr 2017 18:22:04 GMT

In ArcView 3 (AV 3) users often created multiple layouts and disconnected the live link to each one. The AV 3 help text below briefly explains what we could do in the program.

Add a view

To create a map for output containing geographic data you must first add a view to your layout. When you add the view you can choose to make it live linked. This causes any changes in the view to be reflected in the layout. If you decide not to live link your view, it will not change in the layout even if you make changes to the view.

Layouts were not especially powerful in AV 3, but users could create multiple static objects and print them as displayed.

In ArcGIS Pro, multiple layouts are available for within a single Pro project and multiple layouts are associated with a specific Pro map within the Project. In each layout, the user specifies the extent, layers displayed, cartographic elements, and more. In each individual Pro layout, the user now refines/updates the associated map, before printing or exporting the layout. If the map is modified later, the layout changes, too.

It would be very helpful to lock individual layouts to preserve user settings and parameters, without modifying the underlying map.

I strongly recommend that this feature should be submitted as a near term enhancement. I, and others, once used this AV 3 feature often.

Re: Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

deleted-user-sYHsW3p_gN5o — Wed, 01 Nov 2017 17:13:01 GMT

One of the main uses I have for Pro instead of ArcMap is its multiple layouts ability, often referencing the same map. This feature is pretty vital to that functionality.

Also, it could use the existing framework for "lock" buttons that already exist in Pro. Easier on the devs, easier on the users.

Re: Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

SeanHlousek — Thu, 10 May 2018 15:02:43 GMT

I've adopted a workflow where I first copy the Layout I want to change into the new edited one thereby "locking" the original. It works, but a simple lock functionality would be better.

Re: Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

MikePrice — Thu, 10 May 2018 15:14:23 GMT

Hi Sean,

Thank you, I have not heard back directly from Esri regarding this request/issue. I'm still hopeful that a simple lock will be developed. ArcView 3 was able to address the issue nicely.

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Re: Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

SeanHlousek — Thu, 10 May 2018 15:20:07 GMT

Yeah it would be nice.

Like I say what I’ve started doing in my workflows is: 1 – copy the layout I want to manipulate, 2 – rename the layout to something new. 3 – open the new layout, make changes, export/print etc

Then repeat the process for each “edit” or new layout.

The locking functionality would be better because my workflow is going to create a lot of layouts over time but with some creative and careful file naming conventions, it’s workable for us.

Good luck continuing to work out the idiosyncrasies of ArcGIS Pro!

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Re: Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

ChristophKönig1 — Mon, 09 Jul 2018 19:10:23 GMT

at the moment it's a real pain in the ass!

no use for multiple layouts if this doesn't work....

Re: Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

Paul_Christensen — Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:30:06 GMT

My issue was that I have the need for multiple printing scales such as Letter, Legal, or ARCH D. I wanted a layout with symbology different for each, because symbology for a scale as large as ARCH D, will not work for a scale as small as Letter. I didn't want to have to re-manipulate the symbology and layout every time a customer wanted a map printed like I was doing in ArcMap 10.6.

I just copied the map, and then created a new layout for each map. I now have 4 maps that all source their data from my core .gdb, but can all have unique symbology and unique layout properties all within the same instance of ArcGIS Pro instead of having to open a whole new instance of ArcMap 10.6 for each layout.

I have not experimented with ArcView at all.

Re: Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

SeanHlousek — Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:36:14 GMT

Paul,

My projects are evolving into a similar thing you have going on.

What I'm doing to work-through the different scales is over time I'm copying maps AND Layouts, renaming them to the size I want and then adjusting symbology as necessary. This way my data all dynamically updates as I update my .gdb's and I have a map for every occasion so to speak.

Re: Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

Paul_Christensen — Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:50:20 GMT

Having only created this workflow this week, I haven't really had a chance to test it out. I think it'll work pretty slick, however, I see the downside to having multiple maps and layouts such as what we are having to do is this:

If you want to zoom to a certain parcel or feature, and then print multiple formats from there, you need to find that feature each time you change layouts since their extents are not linked. I guess this can be both good and bad depending on each situation.

It may also get a little cluttered if you have the need for many layouts.

Re: Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

SeanHlousek — Fri, 17 Aug 2018 17:01:41 GMT

Right.

Bookmarks might help for some work flows but it still requires some manual work for sure.

Re: Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

Paul_Christensen — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 14:10:54 GMT

I finally had a few chances this week to put my layouts to the test. My layouts worked and I was able to pinpoint my features and get them nicely symbolized and printed a really nice looking parcel map.

Unfortunately, I am one of the users that finds AGP extremely slow in some tasks. When I was zeroing in my symbology and labeling for this printed map, it would take sometimes 5 minutes for a simple change to take place. For instance, I changed "overrun", so my labels only labeled larger parcels and not the tiny ones, and I also changed the "reduce size" settings and it would take minutes for the new settings to take effect. When trying to zero in my settings, and having to change them a few times to get them just where I want them, that is very frustrating. It took probably a half hour just to get the labels where they needed to be when I could have probably done it in less than 5 if the software was keeping up.

I really like the final product that I am able to create in AGP, I just can't make a customer wait a half hour while I tweak the layout for them.

Re: Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

SeanHlousek — Fri, 24 Aug 2018 15:20:31 GMT

Paul,

I have noticed the same behavior, not only with labels but in fine-tuning the legend. The menus and dialogs are all there but those final “fine-tuning” behaviors seem to take a long time.

I don’t know if you experienced the TOC graying out while it “thinks”? I experience graying out irregularly to a point where I can’t reliable replicate it for tech support but it’s happening enough that it is frustrating.

I also wish Arc would not redraw layers that I’m not actively working on. For example, if make a change to symbology on Layer A, Layer B should not need to redraw/re-label if I’ve made no changes there. OR, if we make changes to labels, Arc should not need to re-draw symbology – only the labels. There seems to be a lot of re-drawing when it should not be necessary.

Sean

Re: Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

Paul_Christensen — Thu, 06 Dec 2018 14:56:02 GMT

I'd love to see them have separate layer visibility as well. Basically I want multiple layouts, each with different layers visible. As it sits now if you turn a layer off in one layout, it changes all the layouts.

Re: Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

AriVillafuerte — Wed, 02 Jan 2019 01:15:48 GMT

I'm experiencing the same problem. I wonder if you have found any solutions to lock the settings on each layout?

PRO Save Function Equivalency with ArcMap

SeanHlousek — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 21:02:27 GMT

Could we get the same type of save functionality as we had in ArcMap with Pro.

In ArcMap, I could open an .mxd, make changes to that .mxd, add or remove shapefiles and feature classes and even do analysis, and then quit without saving. When I re-opened the .mxd it was as-if I had never done anything.

In PRO when I make any change, that change is "live" in the map - and any associated Layouts, even if I don't save the project.

I'd like the ability to save but have that save apply the changes I have made rather than everything being "live".

I've worked around this right now using a "Working Map" that is not tied to an layouts but having one working map to answer any question is cumbersome. It was easier with ArcMap to open up a map that was somehow related to the question they might be asking and answer the question with that map, then close it without saving.

Maybe there is a setting somewhere to toggle this function? I haven't found it if there is.

This functionality would improve my PRO experience a LOT.

Re: PRO Save Function Equivalency with ArcMap

KoryKramer — Tue, 15 Jan 2019 14:31:39 GMT

Hi Sean,

Can you give a specific example of Pro saving a change that you have not asked it to save in the project?

Here is a map that I was working with to do a drag and drop demo... and then I started doing some subdivide polygon work in it. This is how it opens up:

No I will add some data, remove some data, change the projection, and turn of the map clipping that I had in place above from the mid-century map:

Now I'll close the project and I'm asked if I want to save all those changes:

I click No.

I re-open the same project and nothing that I did was saved in the project.

If you have a case where you're seeing that this isn't the case, please share.

Thanks!

Re: PRO Save Function Equivalency with ArcMap

SeanHlousek — Tue, 15 Jan 2019 15:59:16 GMT

Hi Kory,

Thank You for the quick response.

I was not clear in my post. Let me clarify: What I am looking for is a specific save button to save changes I make in a specific map or layout, independent from the “global” project save

You are correct, (and I was not in my original post), that changes are not saved when you do not save a project.

What I am looking for is control over specific project elements.

So for example, I’d like to be able to open a project and open a layout where I would like changes saved, and a working map where I want to be able to do some work but not save changes. I’d like to be able to save the work I did on my layout, but NOT save the work I do in my working map.

At present I am only allowed to save the entire project which means any changes in the working map remain.

Sean

Re: PRO Save Function Equivalency with ArcMap

KoryKramer — Tue, 15 Jan 2019 19:57:56 GMT

Thanks for the clarification.

Re: Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

KateNewell1 — Wed, 16 Jan 2019 23:14:34 GMT

This capability is really needed. Otherwise we are copying maps/layouts and unnecessarily bloating our projects. This is pretty insane that it is not already available in PRO.

Re: Locked Multiple Layouts in ArcGIS Pro

CherylTrine — Mon, 28 Jan 2019 00:52:03 GMT

I recently started a project in which I am needing to print out floorplans for all of our buildings. I decided to try AGP since it has the ability to do multiple layouts. I was surprised to find that, although I can have multiple layouts where I can put different text items on the different layouts, I cannot create layouts that have different layers visible. For example, if I have separate layouts for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd floors, I cannot make Layout 1 always and only show me 1st floor, and Layout 2 to always and only show me 2nd floor, etc. As I switch between layouts, I have to go into the map frame and manually change which layers are visible--if I forget, I end up printing erroneous data! This really is a problem and I hope Esri will change it, or if not, give an explanation as to why it would not be a good idea.

Cheryl