topic Re: Moving a fabric point no longer drags connected lines and polygons in ArcGIS Parcel Fabric Questions

Moving a fabric point no longer drags connected lines and polygons

DrewDowling — Mon, 10 Jul 2023 21:56:42 GMT

For some reason when we move a Fabric point, it no longer drags connected line and polygon features with it. In the past, I know we have been able to drag a fabric point a few feet to make it align better with surrounding features and connected parcel types would move with it.

This is no longer happening. The point will move but the connected lines and polygons will stay where they were.

Rebuilding the fabric will create a new point back at the original location.

As a sanity check, I exported the data to a new fabric in a local FGDB and tried dragging the point again. This time it worked, connected lines were dragged with the fabric point.

Re: Moving a fabric point no longer drags connected lines and polygons

jcarlson — Tue, 11 Jul 2023 12:50:30 GMT

I often find that when I open a project with a parcel fabric in the map, I need to go to the Edit tab of the ribbon for it to recognize that there is an active topology. After that, the tools work as intended. Can you check out that tab to make sure the topology is active?

Re: Moving a fabric point no longer drags connected lines and polygons

DrewDowling — Tue, 11 Jul 2023 23:17:03 GMT

D'OH 🤦

Re: Moving a fabric point no longer drags connected lines and polygons

jcarlson — Wed, 12 Jul 2023 14:12:35 GMT

I wouldn't consider it a "d'oh" issue at all! With literally every other feature dataset I load with a topology, and even with projects that have an ad-hoc map topology turned on, the project remembers that the topology is active and does not require this.

It seems like a Fabric specific bug, where its topology needs a "reminder" to start acting right.

Re: Moving a fabric point no longer drags connected lines and polygons

AmirBar-Maor — Tue, 18 Jul 2023 04:42:20 GMT

@DrewDowling @jcarlson

When you add a parcel fabric to a new map we set the correct default behavior = geodatabase topology.

If you close and open the map it does remember this setting.

If you know the steps that make the map 'forget' the setting we would love to know (and fix).

Re: Moving a fabric point no longer drags connected lines and polygons

jcarlson — Tue, 18 Jul 2023 13:53:37 GMT

The "steps":

Close the project
Open the project

To be clear, I don't actually have to change the setting to geodatabase topology, but until I visit the Edit tab, it behaves as though none is in place. Simply switching to the Edit tab seems to "remind" Pro that the topology is there.

Re: Moving a fabric point no longer drags connected lines and polygons

AmirBar-Maor — Wed, 19 Jul 2023 15:15:11 GMT

@jcarlson

I am not able to reproduce the behavior you are seeing with ArcGIS Pro version 3.1 (and the future 3.2). 🤔

After opening the project, while on the Map tab, I use the Select tool to select a point, then right-click and use the Move tool. The 'rubber banding' indicates that the topology is on.

How do you determine that the topology is turned off?

Thanks,

Amir

Re: Moving a fabric point no longer drags connected lines and polygons

jcarlson — Wed, 19 Jul 2023 15:17:18 GMT

When using standard editing tools like "Edit Vertices", "Reshape", and the like, I am not presented with the "Edges" option.

Re: Moving a fabric point no longer drags connected lines and polygons

jcarlson — Wed, 19 Jul 2023 15:17:54 GMT

Oh and topology-specific tools like align edge are not selectable until I visit the Edit tab.

Re: Moving a fabric point no longer drags connected lines and polygons

AmirBar-Maor — Wed, 19 Jul 2023 15:54:54 GMT

@jcarlson

That sounds like an editing issue that is not related to the parcel fabric. Did you submit a case to technical support?

BTW - your picture appeared on the MVP board in the UC 🙂

Re: Moving a fabric point no longer drags connected lines and polygons

jcarlson — Wed, 19 Jul 2023 15:59:35 GMT

It does, but it only happens on my parcel fabrics. If I have another topology-enabled feature service, it comes in just fine.

It's at the level of "minor inconvenience", so I haven't bothered with a support ticket. But perhaps I should, just to get someone else's take on what is going on.

Re: Moving a fabric point no longer drags connected lines and polygons

jcarlson — Fri, 04 Aug 2023 14:29:14 GMT

@AmirBar-Maor you'll be happy to know this behavior has disappeared. I was using the same Pro Project from previous versions, and I think it must have hung onto some setting, I'm not sure.

Adding the fabric to a brand new project, and it picks up the topology right away.

Re: Moving a fabric point no longer drags connected lines and polygons

AmirBar-Maor — Fri, 04 Aug 2023 15:16:47 GMT

@jcarlson Thanks for letting us know this (annoying) behavior has disappeared.

It might be related to the tab you are on... and how/when certain DLLs load behind the scenes.
I suspect you are on the editing tab and this is why you might no longer see this behavior or triggered the right DLLs to load.