topic Re: Merge Points: Inconsistent Behavior? in ArcGIS Parcel Fabric Questions

Merge Points: Inconsistent Behavior?

jcarlson — Mon, 12 Jun 2023 16:30:17 GMT

Has anyone encountered this? I use Merge Points in an area where I know the topology is good. No gaps, no overlaps, everything is lined up nicely. The preview shows exactly what I want.

But when I complete the merge, one of the parcels behaves as though it was the other point, while the rest of the features align properly.

With more points and parcels involved, the results get even wackier:

These examples are easy enough to correct with topological editing tools, but I shouldn't have to do that every time I merge points.

It gets worse. Sometimes the parcels behave as though none of the other vertices are "pinned" by fabric points, even if they are!

This leads to "alignments" in which the entire parcel is transformed in the same was as the target segment, leaving me with literally every other vertex now being misaligned.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

Merge Points used to be my favorite tool, now I avoid it like the plague.

Re: Merge Points: Inconsistent Behavior?

KarinPierce — Mon, 12 Jun 2023 16:45:57 GMT

I am also seeing this same behavior. This was my go to tool but no using it.

Re: Merge Points: Inconsistent Behavior?

anna_garrett — Mon, 12 Jun 2023 17:13:23 GMT

I have encountered this before as well and have since abandoned using the tool. Whatever changes were made absolutely broke it.

Re: Merge Points: Inconsistent Behavior?

jcarlson — Mon, 12 Jun 2023 17:16:55 GMT

@anna_garrett @KarinPierce Glad to hear it's not just me, but sorry you lost the tool, too. Did it coincide with Pro 3.0, or 3.1? I can't recall, honestly.

Re: Merge Points: Inconsistent Behavior?

anna_garrett — Mon, 12 Jun 2023 17:19:00 GMT

I can't recall either, to be completely fair. Probably 3.0.

Re: Merge Points: Inconsistent Behavior?

MichaelVolz — Mon, 12 Jun 2023 20:35:21 GMT

Is Merge Points an important tool that you had been using when cleaning up parcels that were adjacent to new or edited parcels in the fabric?

Re: Merge Points: Inconsistent Behavior?

anna_garrett — Mon, 12 Jun 2023 20:39:22 GMT

it was a useful clean up tool in the ArcMap parcel fabric.

Re: Merge Points: Inconsistent Behavior?

TimHodson — Tue, 13 Jun 2023 00:59:48 GMT

Thanks @jcarlson @KarinPierce @anna_garrett for reporting this problem. I've reproduced the issue on 3.1.x. It is not reproducible in 3.0.x. We will work to find the cause, identify a solution, and get a fix into the next available patch.

Re: Merge Points: Inconsistent Behavior?

TimHodson — Thu, 24 Aug 2023 21:49:27 GMT

This is fixed in the latest patch 3.1.3 that was released today.

ArcGIS Pro 3.1 patch 3 (3.1.3) is now available to download from My Esri.

https://support.esri.com/en-us/bug/the-merge-parcel-points-tool-returns-topology-errors-bug-000159260

Thank you again for reporting it.

Re: Merge Points: Inconsistent Behavior?

NickN — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 21:33:01 GMT

This is still happening in 3.3.2. I'll merge points and other, unselected, verticies that were tied to a fabric point get untethered. It even shows it's going to do that in the preview.

The "bend" in the subdivision boundaries above get untethered from the corner they were all coincident at when I merge parcel points 90 feet north of here. Then these end up with vertices uncovered by parcel points. Even worse, the result doesn't match the preview lol:

Re: Merge Points: Inconsistent Behavior?

TimHodson — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 23:37:32 GMT

Hi @NickN - This one's a bit tricky to work out without the data. What is the scale of the screen-shots above? Are they zoomed in to 1:1? Trying to understand the size of the gaps shown.

Yes, that preview is definitely odd, can you please confirm that those lines are actually two-point lines? I'd expect to see something like that if the green and purple lines were polylines, and had not been split at the bend. For example, in the second screen-shot, are there 2 purple line features, or 1 purple line feature in the data extent shown?

Does the problem only happen when merging points that involve these specific lines, or does it happen in all cases for all of your data?

Thanks.

-Tim

Re: Merge Points: Inconsistent Behavior?

NickN — Mon, 21 Oct 2024 14:27:59 GMT

Hi Tim,

Yep, you were right. I just happened to be working in an area where stuff wasn't 2-point lines. Now, at least, I know what to look for when I have this issue. As for what scale I was at, I can't say for sure but when I looked at it again today it looked like I was around 1:3 or 1:5.

Thanks!

Re: Merge Points: Inconsistent Behavior?

TimHodson — Mon, 21 Oct 2024 20:27:22 GMT

Hi @NickN - thanks for the update. Glad to hear the issue is resolved by splitting the polylines into 2-point lines.