idea Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro in ArcGIS Parcel Fabric Ideas

Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro

Geographic_Mythos — Wed, 08 Sep 2021 15:10:56 GMT

In ArcMap, the Traverse Grid and Parcel Fabric grids did not auto-commit data every time I entered a new row in the Traverse.

I would like the option to pause the auto-commit while entering the Traverse so that I could enter all the information before it draws.

There are several members of my team who are rather proficient in entering Metes-and-Bounds, and this longer pause during the auto-commit is adding significant time to their keying of those descriptions. Imagine writing a COGO distance, then waiting 5-10 seconds for the line to make the loop back and forth from the database/feature service. Then do this again for dozens of lines. If you were to type too quickly, you end up creating mistakes that you then have to go back and edit, again, and still wait for the commit.

Barring that, have the Traverse draw data locally instead of sending the information back to the feature service, the same way that the Links and Anchors do during an Alignment so that the grid works faster.

Re: Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro

AmirBar-Maor — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 11:12:43 GMT

Thanks Josh. We are working on this issue. We also noticed the delay between the sketch speed and the rate of committing the features. The solution can be the workaround you suggest or fixing the actual problem.

Re: Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro

anna_garrett — Thu, 02 Sep 2021 18:30:48 GMT

bump, can this issue please be addressed? it's killing my productivity.

Re: Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro

AmirBar-Maor — Wed, 08 Sep 2021 08:06:15 GMT

This issue was reported in ArcGIS Pro 2.6 and got resolved in version 2.8 (or 2.7 not sure).

@anna_garrett - which version are you using? Did you call technical support? Are you using feature services? do you have network issues?

Re: Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro

anna_garrett — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 14:58:21 GMT

@AmirBar-Maor

there's still a 10 second gap between pressing enter on a new line and it actually committing.

I'm running 2.8.3, my data is in a file database on a server. there are no network issues. I don't have the spare time to open a ticket a the moment.

Re: Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro

KoryKramer — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:23:14 GMT

"file [geo?]database on a server"

See Announcing the ArcGIS Pro Performance Assessment Tool (PAT)

To do a controlled test of how communication over the network affects responsiveness in Pro, you could download ProPAT and the data to the server location and run the tests.

Then place everything on your C: drive and run again. Compare the resulting times. The difference in execution times could be attributed to network latency. For more information, see Application, project, and data location tips.

Re: Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro

anna_garrett — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:27:55 GMT

@KoryKramer the problem is if I do everything locally, my data is not backed up. The server is backed up nightly. so i'm stuck between this lag and losing everything if someone in my office opens the wrong email.

Re: Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro

KoryKramer — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:33:20 GMT

I understand that there can be business reasons to store data in certain locations. I was just offering a controlled test that could help to determine if the lag you are seeing may be the result of network latency (outside of our control) or an actual issue in the Traverse tool (within our control).

Re: Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro

anna_garrett — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 16:35:00 GMT

@KoryKramer for sure, i'm downloading the tool to check it out.

Re: Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro

AmirBar-Maor — Thu, 23 Sep 2021 17:25:23 GMT

@anna_garrett

A quick test to determine if this is a problem in the traverse or general editing issue is to digitize a sequence of a 2 point line (from is the Create features pane). Use the same layer that took long in the traverse pane.

The first edit you make in an edit session usually takes a bit longer, but 10 seconds is way too much time.

Re: Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro

AmirBar-Maor — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 09:13:33 GMT

@Geographic_Mythos

I am not going to mark this idea as 'In Product plan' as this is not the solution we are targeting. We are, however, working to separate the grid UI (data entry) from the commit process of new features. This would yield the result we are after all along: fast data entry while saving your edits all the time. If we were to switch to a sketch based data entry you would have lost all your entries if you had to 'step out' of the traverse

Re: Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro

Geographic_Mythos — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 13:15:30 GMT

@AmirBar-Maor

I'll accept anything that helps the team out during their Traverse. Thank you for looking into enhancing the performance of the grid entry in general.

Re: Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro

AndyWells — Fri, 14 Jan 2022 15:02:12 GMT

I am having this exact same behavior with the traverse tool on version 2.9.0. After about 50 rows in the traverse tool, you start seeing it take several seconds to go to the next line after you hit enter. At about 150 rows it takes 10-12 seconds, and the screen will also black out and present the ArcGIS Pro is not responding message. I think this started happening when I updated to 2.9.0 but I am not sure. I have the same behavior on two different machines. Both are saving to a layer in a local file geodatabase. It makes working with the traverse tool an excruciating process as you have to wait for the next line to appear, and if you type too soon, the value goes into the previous row and you have to correct, and wait again.

Re: Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro

AmirBar-Maor — Mon, 17 Jan 2022 08:42:35 GMT

@AndyWells

Thanks for reporting it.

We will test the traverse with hundreds of rows and try to reproduce the issue.

We are working on improving the performance issue in the traverse pane by using the multithreaded nature of Pro. Our goal is to enter rows at "ludicrous" speeds.

Re: Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro - Status changed to: In Product Plan

AmirBar-Maor — Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:41:11 GMT

The performance of the traverse is being worked on.
However, it is not implemented using the old ArcMap graphic overlay as the idea suggests.

Target release: 3.0

Re: Pause Auto-Commit During Traverse in Pro - Status changed to: Implemented

AmirBar-Maor — Fri, 24 Jun 2022 14:47:42 GMT

In Pro 3.0 we are using 2 threads: 1 thread to support the fast entry of values in the traverse grid a second thread to commit the features.

The result: a super-fast responsive grid that accommodates any delay / slow performance in the main thread that commits the features to the geodatabase.

Why we did not use sketch?

1. Ability to save edits halfway through

2. Ability to label each course as they are being entered

3. Ability to change the symbology - for example: symbolize road frontage lines different than backlot lines.