topic Re: Why are the credits so long for the World Topographic map? in ArcGIS Online Questions

Why are the credits so long for the World Topographic map?

JoshWhite — Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:31:34 GMT

I want to use the Esri basemaps to ease map creation but I find the credits are too long. Its important to give credit where its due but to have zero control on how it's displayed is frustrating. Here is my example of the World Topographic map on a small layout.

The map is unusable in this condition. Even if I could include the credits outside of the map frame that would help.

Re: Why is the credits so long for the World Topographic map?

AdamEversole1 — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 00:46:16 GMT

Hey Josh, What client are you using to produce your map?

If your using ArcGIS Pro check out this thread and answer from Dan Patterson‌

- Remove Service Layer Credits

Hope that helps

-Adam

Re: Why is the credits so long for the World Topographic map?

JoshWhite — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:29:42 GMT

No exactly intuitive but I figured it out with help from the thread. Thanks.

But I do have a question.

Instead of:

Sources: Esri, HERE, Garmin, Intermap, increment P Corp., GEBCO, USGS, FAO, NPS, NRCAN, GeoBase, IGN, Kadaster NL, Ordnance Survey, Esri Japan, METI, Esri China (Hong Kong), swisstopo, OpenStreetmap contributors, and the GIS User community

Why can't it be ?

Many of the other sources in this list are not worldwide. For instance, in the US, Esri Japan and Esri China and Kadaster NL (among others) have no content here, so why list them? I realize this is called the World Topographic map but surely you see my issue. If that was the case, it could stay on the map frame without too many issues.

Re: Why are the credits so long for the World Topographic map?

AdamEversole1 — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:00:55 GMT

It's a good question, I assume now it is ArcGIS Pro you are working in. I'm seeing this with layouts the have basemaps too, the citation string is long, and its consistent .

It's interesting, Im looking at the World Topo Basemap in ArcGIS online and the credits here do a cool thing and actually update when you zoom and pan around.

https://arcg.is/48Hfr

As for ArcGIS Pro it looks to only be pulling the copyright text from the Citation layer in the service only, nothing Dynamic. It might be a great Idea to post with the Ideas to Have ArcGIS Pro handle basemap citation like ArcGIS online does.

Re: Why are the credits so long for the World Topographic map?

JoshWhite — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:19:09 GMT

I noticed that behavior online as well. Pro does pull from the credits in the layer properties.

Re: Why are the credits so long for the World Topographic map?

AdamEversole1 — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:25:45 GMT

It's the copyright text from the Citation layer

- Layer: Citations (ID: 0)

This populates the credits in the layers metadata.

Re: Why are the credits so long for the World Topographic map?

JoshWhite — Tue, 22 Jun 2021 08:23:01 GMT

Right, but the text is entered into the same box when you pull it up in Pro. It's just grayed out and can't be edited since it's a web layer. Here is the Idea: https://community.esri.com/ideas/16121

Re: Why are the credits so long for the World Topographic map?

AdamEversole1 — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 21:01:12 GMT

Thanks Josh.

Re: Why are the credits so long for the World Topographic map?

NikkiHart-Brinkley — Tue, 05 Feb 2019 03:24:52 GMT

I think you've sorted this out, but just in case: Altering the Service Credits layer from: Layout, Insert, Dynamic Text still works in ArcPro as described in the earlier response. I haven't tried editing it, I just drag it off to the side of the layout and list a reasonable amount of sources in a text box that works for the map and size I'm working with.

Re: Why are the credits so long for the World Topographic map?

JoshWhite — Tue, 05 Feb 2019 14:17:42 GMT

Well, it isn't totally sorted out because they still haven't addressed the total length of the credits themselves. I still think that Esri and business partners says the same thing. Or perhaps Esri World Topographic Map or Esri Imagery would say the same thing. The solution they provide and you suggested is an acceptable workaround though.

Re: Why are the credits so long for the World Topographic map?

LorinCrandall1 — Wed, 04 Oct 2023 21:42:56 GMT

Thanks for asking about this, the service layer credits are completely overkill. Just using the most basic topographic basemap requires nearly a paragraph of nonsense that nobody is going to look at or use in any meaningful way. It is really pretty absurd, the system seems to be setup to be avoided instead of implemented smoothly. Why not a tiny QR code, a reference number, anything!? Does ESRI care about maps actually looking nice?