topic Re: Hosting Advice in ArcGIS Online Questions

Hosting Advice

ScottHoffman1 — Tue, 19 Jan 2016 16:07:07 GMT

Afternoon Community –

Looking for advice on map hosting options for municipal clients. In short, we have been tasked to map their water and waste water infrastructure. These municipalities do not employ nor have any GIS experience. At the end of the day, we would like to provided them with a secure online setup to view their infrastructure.

Are there any cost effective solutions to provide an online setup for them? (we do not have ArcServer, but do have ArcGIS Online)

Thanks!

Re: Hosting Advice

XanderBakker — Tue, 19 Jan 2016 17:35:33 GMT

You could use ArcGIS Online, create a named user and a group for each municipality, share only within the group, if municipalities are not allowed to see each others content. Share items—ArcGIS Online Help | ArcGIS

Re: Hosting Advice

MicahWilliamson — Tue, 19 Jan 2016 17:43:49 GMT

Be careful when hosting other Organization's data. Esri might ping you for it. There's no ASP license model for ArcGIS Online as there is for ArcGIS Server. Ask your rep for particulars.

That being said AGO is totally the way you want to go. Editing made easy for non GIS peeps.

Re: Hosting Advice

ChrisSmith7 — Tue, 19 Jan 2016 18:25:02 GMT

This is definitely something to keep in mind... ASP is also usually twice the licensing cost, but is definitely something to be mindful of if you're reselling the product.

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Anonymous User — Tue, 19 Jan 2016 18:57:57 GMT

If the data/service is private (not shared publicly), you could share it to a private group, but each client would need their own ArcGIS Online account to view the content in that group. You are not permitted to share a Named User from your own subscription outside your own company/organization. (The license permits some exceptions, such as contractors, but they are in essence an extension of your employee base which is not the case in the use case in this thread.)

Re: Hosting Advice

MatthewBaber — Tue, 19 Jan 2016 19:03:34 GMT

This is a field that I am directly involved in.

You could have each municipality purchase their own ArcGIS Online Organization and as many user packs as they require, and then have a "shared" group between your ArcGIS Online org and theirs. Sharing Between ArcGIS Online Organizations · Esri/developer-support Wiki · GitHub

Shared groups require both parties to have ArcGIS Online organization accounts. This is a much cheaper option versus other solutions with similar outcomes, and it opens the whole suite of ESRI mobile apps to the municipalities as well as being in-line with ESRI licensing.

Re: Hosting Advice

MelanieRosenberg2 — Tue, 19 Jan 2016 19:29:05 GMT

Geocortex essentials works very well! Otherwise, AGOL has tons of limitations. If you must use AGOL, I recommend at least getting portal. Cheaper than Server, more flexibility than AGOL standalone.

Re: Hosting Advice

Anonymous User — Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:05:31 GMT

Just noting that Portal for ArcGIS is licensed for internal use to an organization and would not be valid in this use case where they want to host for external organizations. (Which is why there is no ASP license for Portal). The services could be hosted by ArcGIS for Server (ASP) as has been done for years.

Re: Hosting Advice

ScottHoffman1 — Wed, 20 Jan 2016 12:44:30 GMT

Hi - Royce Hall

Thanks for all the insight into my general question about hosting.

To gain some more knowledge about ArcGIS Server. Could we accomplish the above with Server Standard Workgroup license? Or does the license have to be Enterprise?

We are not a huge company so starting small and scaling larger if needed would be ideal.

Re: Hosting Advice

Anonymous User — Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:44:14 GMT

I would suggest speaking with an account manager with respect to the full use case. ArcGIS for Server Workgroup has a few limitations specified in the License Agreement which may help determine if you need Enterprise or not. See footnote numbers 28, 29, 30, 32, 38 and 39 (page 10-11 of the PDF (or page 3-4 of the E300 section) of the License Agreement). http://www.esri.com/~/media/Files/Pdfs/legal/pdfs/mla_e204_e300/english

Re: Hosting Advice

JasonHarris2 — Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:09:02 GMT

Scott-

My name is Jason, and I am the CTO of ROK Technologies, a Esri business partner since 1997. We are a ASP level provider of ArcGIS Server - meaning we can provide you with ArcGIS Server Map Services without requiring you to maintain a license - we take of that (as well as bandwidth, infrastructure, expertise and 24 hour support). We do not require that you utilize any special framework - meaning we can just host map services that you can consume in your applications. Of course, we can assist with other aspect of a deployment as well. We often partner with engineering firms, other Esri business partners, any really any organization that requires the highest up-time/availability/performance. If you'd like, feel free to get in touch jharris@roktech.net / www.roktech.net and I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.

Re: Hosting Advice

JeremyMcCollum2 — Wed, 27 Jan 2016 22:38:23 GMT

Along this same thread, our company is going to have ArcServer hosted from a third party enterprise system for our use. With that said, we will want to show maps internally for employees who won't be on that enterprise system, but want to see maps that I produce. Is it better to get an ArcGIS online account and let employees see it that way or use another way. I guess I thought Portal would be good, but not sure if that is part of the Server license agreement or a separate added license?

Re: Hosting Advice

MalcolmMeyer — Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:40:22 GMT

Do your clients absolutely need editing online editing capabilities? Are your files that you are pushing out extremely large? If not I would completely avoid setting up a GIS server at all and get your feet wet with an open source mapping library such as leaflet. We have successfully created a county-wide parcel viewer using Leaflet hosted alongside our normal website, no GIS server at all (20k parcels). We also host infrastructure viewers for small municipalities - where the shapefiles (geojson really) are at max 6mb in size. Some of the pages are secured using normal apache htaccess (using cpanel, no coding needed). If you do not need password protection - which may violate public records laws depending on your state - you could host a site like this for free on github, surge.sh, openshift, etc. I think surge.sh allows for passwords on their paid platform.

If you do have large files you can do some simplification via ArcMap or mapshaper to see if that helps.

Examples

https://www.ovrdc.org/apps/wellston/

https://www.ovrdc.org/apps/geojson-tiles.html