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Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

JamieLambert — Wed, 14 Apr 2021 14:51:02 GMT

Hi All,

Hopefully this isn't something I've just missed!

It seems the default view for pop-ups is alphabetical rather than attribute order. To me it makes more sense to have the default order as attribute order - I'm sure most people creating features apply a logical approach to table design - and having to completely reorganise the pop-up is frustrating. Can the default order be changed to attribute order? Thanks,

Jamie

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

RonCaluza — Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:33:00 GMT

I agree. I'd also prefer that the order of the attributes stays the same for the pop up in beta viewer. Sometimes my data has a large number of fields that were arranged in a logical order (e.g. demographic data) and it isn't practical to spend a large amount of time putting them back in the logical order. This was never an issue in the older map viewer, which left the order alone by default. If there are people who prefer alphabetical order, maybe Esri could give us an option to sort alphabetically. But I agree that the default for the pop up should be the original order of the attribute table.

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

WilliamBlake123 — Tue, 12 Apr 2022 01:42:07 GMT

Now that the new Map Viewer is out of Beta, this still appears to be an issue. Logical ordering of attribute fields is surely a common requirement. Is this on Esri's radar?

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

RonCaluza — Tue, 12 Apr 2022 04:31:40 GMT

It sure is disappointing that Esri still hasn't addressed or even acknowledged this issue over a year after Jamie brought it up. Esri keeps making it sound like we should start using the new Map Viewer because it can do everything the old Map Viewer can, but the new Map Viewer's default of re-sorting the fields to alphabetical order creates a major disruption in our work flow that was never there before. It's like Esri assumes we have just a few fields and manual resorting won't be a big hassle, but that just isn't the case. No matter how much I try to talk customers into reducing the number of fields, ultimately my customers or managers will often choose to keep a large amount of fields. It's frustrating when Esri makes these "improvements" in the new Map Viewer (or other products) that really none of us were asking for.

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

BronwenHughes — Thu, 23 Jun 2022 00:10:47 GMT

I agree. I have a complex dataset with 50 fields. I don't have time to reorder the fields in the pop-up to reflect the order in the attribute table.

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

Vandal_WSU — Thu, 08 Dec 2022 00:23:34 GMT

Hear Hear

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

KKelechenyi — Wed, 04 Jan 2023 22:24:51 GMT

Agreed! I am approaching 50 fields as well, the re-ordering is cumbersome. Please fix this, Esri.

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

ChaselWood — Tue, 17 Jan 2023 16:05:54 GMT

A work around that I am using is opening the maps in the classic viewer, and disabling then enabling the popups. This ordered them in the intended order, though my products do not necessarily require I build in the new viewer, so I am not sure it will apply to every situation.

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

TiffanyTuro — Mon, 20 Mar 2023 21:19:35 GMT

still struggling with this on 3/20/2023

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

TylerPackett2 — Fri, 28 Apr 2023 17:38:26 GMT

The fact that the solution continues to be to use map viewer classic to configure the popup and then swap to the new map viewer is so dumb.

ESRI you have the working code that parses the field order and formatting in the classic map viewer, Please allocate a fraction of your billions of dollars to get that migrated to the supposedly new and better map viewer.

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

RyanTucker — Thu, 11 May 2023 23:01:46 GMT

Why bother having schema at all?

This needs to be fixed.

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

LJackson29 — Fri, 02 Jun 2023 15:48:13 GMT

Agreed - I have to waste an incredible amount of time reordering attributes because they are ordered alphabetically instated in the order of the attribute table. When selecting fields in the pop-up configuration there is the option to order by default which gives you the order of the attribute table, but it doesn't carry through once you leave the field selection to the field list. Please provide this as an option!

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

FredrikEkefjard1 — Fri, 30 Jun 2023 08:17:21 GMT

I agree, this is frustrating. Has Esri fixed this "bug" in Enterprise 11.1, where (from what I understand) there is no MV Classic...?

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

AllisonTalsma — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 14:58:52 GMT

October 24, 2023, struggling with this issue.

The workaround ChaselWood posted seems to work for me but time consuming when they should just display the way the schema intended...

"A work around that I am using is opening the maps in the classic viewer, and disabling then enabling the popups. This ordered them in the intended order, though my products do not necessarily require I build in the new viewer, so I am not sure it will apply to every situation."

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

PatrickKelleher — Tue, 05 Dec 2023 13:32:35 GMT

Is there a way we can charge ESRI back for all the time wasted rearranging the fields the way you designed them.

--ESRI: You are developing a serious credibility problem. At least acknowledge the post and tell us when you will fix it.

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

Jay_Geisen — Tue, 19 Dec 2023 18:07:21 GMT

I'm struggling with this too. I changed the field order back to what it should be in the Map Viewer. But then when I toggle back over to the Map Viewer Classic, it shows alphabetical order again. I can toggle back and forth between the MV and MVC and the pop up order is completely different. Unfortunately, the one that seems to get passed on to the applications is the MVC (alphabetic/wrong) order. Not sure what is going on at this point.

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

TiffanyTuro — Tue, 19 Dec 2023 18:14:49 GMT

I have found that if I set order and save from MVC pop up configure window, it will retain field order into my final map popups. It is pretty ridiculous, but we often need to just get things done, and so we have to find a work around. I feel your frustration.

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

Jay_Geisen — Tue, 19 Dec 2023 18:23:45 GMT

Agreed on that last point, Tiffany. The thing is, as ridiculous as it all is (and it truly is), I wish that the one that worked was at least the new one (Map Viewer). Re-ordering in it is so much quicker than the classic one. Honestly, re-ordering huge lists in the classic one is enough to make me want to cry. At least the new one allows you to see more than like five fields at once and you can just drag and drop them. I'm not even going to describe the process in the MVC, as I'm sure you all know and hate it as well as I do.

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

LJackson29 — Tue, 19 Dec 2023 18:45:19 GMT

One work around in the New map viewer is to go to Pop-ups -> Field List ->Select Fields ->Select All and then the attributes will be listed in the order of the attribute table vs. alphabetical. You can then unselect any you don't want to show.

Re: Show Pop-ups in Attribute order rather than Alphabetical by Default

DebHSF — Mon, 12 Feb 2024 15:46:15 GMT

Thank you @LJackson29 that makes my life so much easier!