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Provide a warning about dependent items when deleting an ArcGIS Online feature service

ArthurButo — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 03:32:35 GMT

Before you Delete a Feature Service, a warning box should pop up with a list of dependent Web Maps, so that you don't inadvertently delete something that's being used; or so that you can systematically delete those Web Maps as well. [As we create more and more maps, it's get harder and harder to keep track of what's dependent on what].

This is related to jesterjace's Idea, "Processing ArcGIS Online Service Updates More Effectively" (the ArcGIS Online proposal).

Re: Provide a warning about dependent items when deleting an ArcGIS Online feature service

NeillJobe — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 23:58:34 GMT

Our Admin Tools for ArcGIS Online (Pro) & Portal will show you item dependencies in this fashion. It does not warn you but at least you could go look at the item before deleting it and see its dependencies as well as what is dependent upon it. You can even print out the hierarchy so that you can reference it later. Here is a video that gives you a very quick run down - https://youtu.be/S1CvjZrWn3M

Here is a link to the ArcGIS Marketplace - https://marketplace.arcgis.com/listing.html?id=4b9205d08a42413085a17ca91b97e3c7 - See more at: https://c.na9.visual.force.com/apex/ideaView?id=087E0000000Cxj0IAC#sthash.H8wk7gRz.dpuf

Re: Provide a warning about dependent items when deleting an ArcGIS Online feature service

BrianBaldwin — Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:32:44 GMT

More then a warning. It would be great to simply see the dependencies listed in the item details page. For example, I have an Operations Dashboard that is not working for some users. The issue is that the web map isn't shared correctly...but what web map? What services? Seeing all of these dependencies listed on the item details page would be an immense help.

The GeoJobe tools are great for this and for administering services and their dependencies, but having at least Dashboard and App dependencies listed would be a huge benefit.

Re: Provide a warning about dependent items when deleting an ArcGIS Online feature service

MichaelVolz — Mon, 09 Apr 2018 17:32:26 GMT

This would be very useful, but would the search for all dependencies potentially take a long time if your AGOL portal has a large number of items for this potential tool to search through?

Re: Provide a warning about dependent items when deleting an ArcGIS Online feature service

KenDoman — Mon, 09 Apr 2018 20:46:56 GMT

Hi Michael,

ArcGIS Online and Portal return item dependency queries about as fast as general item searches. If your organization has a lot of content, it will take more time. But my experience has been that item dependency queries take seconds, instead of minutes for large organizations.

Our View Item Dependencies tool works anytime you are selecting items in one of our tasks. As you're looking for items to delete, you can View the Item Dependencies way before you select them. You don't have to wait until the confirmation page to get the results.

For more information on the View Item Dependencies, check out this YouTube video.

Re: Provide a warning about dependent items when deleting an ArcGIS Online feature service

JohnDye2 — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 19:07:21 GMT

This is sorely needed

Re: Provide a warning about dependent items when deleting an ArcGIS Online feature service

BlakeBilbo — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 14:54:31 GMT

Hi John,

The Pro and Portal versions of Admin Tools for ArcGIS provides "View Item Dependencies" functionality, which allows you to see (and document) what items are being consumed by your Web Maps and Apps, as well as where else these are items are being consumed.

If you need the Admin Tools for ArcGIS Online, check it out, HERE.
Need Admin Tools for Portal on premise? Check it out our product page, HERE.

Feel free to reach out to me at bbilbo@geo-jobe.com if you have additional questions.

Thanks!

Re: Provide a warning about dependent items when deleting an ArcGIS Online feature service

FinnianO_Connor — Fri, 07 Jun 2019 08:06:23 GMT

Hey Blake,

Are dependencies listed only for items in your own organization or would I be able to see if one of my public hosted feature layers was used in another organization's web maps/apps?

Cheers,

Finnian

Re: Provide a warning about dependent items when deleting an ArcGIS Online feature service

BlakeBilbo — Fri, 07 Jun 2019 13:14:21 GMT

Hi Finnian,

The View Item Dependencies feature works by searching the Organization using Admin Tools Pro for instances of that same service also being consumed across all your items (this is why it may take a few moments to yield results, depending on the volume of content in the org). There is no "external" way to scrape other organizations for the same, as Admin Tools only works to manage and view content within the organization using it.

However, if any other Organizations are using Admin Tools Pro, you could coordinate with one of their administrators to get you their results, as it's possible to export the view item dependencies results to CSV or even print out a hard copy, as shown in this video demonstrating the View Item Dependencies in action.

I hope this helps!

Re: Provide a warning about dependent items when deleting an ArcGIS Online feature service

Katie_Clark — Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:34:07 GMT

Yes, this would be SO helpful! This is incredibly relevant to administrators who have to be very conscious of credit usage. I periodically go through our organization to determine if there are any feature services that aren't being used so we don't have to use credits to store them, but it is a very cumbersome and time-intensive process.

As for the GeoJobe tool, it looks like it has a lot of great functionalities, but I don't see any way I can convince my organization to pay for the ArcGIS Admin Pro license, which is what you need to access the "view dependencies" feature. I'm sure I am not the only GIS professional who runs into budgetary concerns and pressures from project managers....

I really hope we can see this implemented in a future version of ArcGIS Online.

Re: Provide a warning about dependent items when deleting an ArcGIS Online feature service

BlakeBilbo — Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:28:01 GMT

Hello Katherine,

I do understand that there can be difficulties justifying covering the cost of software based on one limited feature.

I would encourage you to look over our recorded demonstration of Admin Tools Pro and Clean My Org, and see if understanding the time and resources saved between these two products when used effectively could easily pay for itself.

Also, it should be noted that for Admin Tools Pro (where you would be able to access item dependencies) does currently offer TWO price points: $500 a year or $99 for a single month of access. We feel this price point is very aggressive and easily justifiable to most Organizational Managers when the full scope of the what the tools are capable of are showcased.

If you need further assistance please free to reach out to me at bbilbo@geo-jobe.com

Re: Provide a warning about dependent items when deleting an ArcGIS Online feature service

Katie_Clark — Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:33:55 GMT

Thanks, Blake! I'll see if I can put together a cost/benefit analysis and present it to my manager....

Re: Provide a warning about dependent items when deleting an ArcGIS Online feature service

Joshua-Young — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:44:22 GMT

I agree with Brian that there needs to be more than just a warning when trying to delete an item. The details page of any item should list all dependencies for the item in question for the owner and admins. Even better would be having this capability as a privilege that could be assigned to roles. I am glad to see that 3rd party vendors have stepped in to fill this gap created by Esri, but this is such a critical piece for long-term maintenance that it should be in the product by default.

I do not like the idea of having to risk deleting an item just to see what dependencies an item might have.

Re: Provide a warning about dependent items when deleting an ArcGIS Online feature service

BrittanyBurson — Wed, 15 Sep 2021 23:20:15 GMT

Agree with the need for this and, as others have pointed out, also would like to view these dependencies in general and not only when at risk of deletion.

Map all content in AGOL and Portal using ArcGIS Knowledge

MicheleH1_DNReply — Mon, 18 Jul 2022 02:37:09 GMT

I'll preface this by saying I haven't used ArcGIS Knowledge or made any knowledge graphs (link charts?) but I have been thinking about it and wondering if it would be possible to use it to map all our feature classes, web layers, web maps, apps, groups etc. etc. so I could see what is affected if I change something in a layer or delete a service etc.

Then I fell down a rabbit hole in reddit and came across the following post:

I read this and went YES!!!!! This is what I want. (Just FYI above are not my words and I'm not commenting on the second paragraph at all). I have spent the last 2 years on and off looking for some sort of software that would do this. Now I understand I can probably (and I will probably.... soon...ish...) try my hand at building something (I can't actually get a link chart to work at the moment - I'm guessing I need a licence?) but it would be the absolute best if this was something that was more or less automatic.

Re: Map all content in AGOL and Portal using ArcGIS Knowledge

xingchenc — Mon, 18 Jul 2022 02:47:42 GMT

Great idea！ Probably should repost it in the ArcGIS Enterprise section?

Re: Map all content in AGOL and Portal using ArcGIS Knowledge

MicheleH1_DNReply — Mon, 18 Jul 2022 02:59:47 GMT

Hmm - good point and if I could work out how to shift it I would. I never seem to be able to post things in the right place. Maybe someone at ESRI can move it....?

Re: Provide a warning about dependent items when deleting an ArcGIS Online feature service

MappyIan — Thu, 23 Jan 2025 11:49:26 GMT