topic Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error in ArcGIS GeoStatistical Analyst Questions

Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

SilviaBologna — Tue, 08 Feb 2011 18:35:20 GMT

Hi,

I'm attempting to perform ordinary Kriging using the geostatistical wizard in ArcMap10 on Windows Vista SP1.
In particular, in the second step in which I define the Kriging and output type, when clicking NEXT ArcMap closes with the message "ArcGIS Explorer has encountered a serious application error".

Any suggestions on how to solve this issue?

Thanks

Silvia

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

SteveLynch — Tue, 08 Feb 2011 21:49:51 GMT

- Can you reproduce the problem, i.e does it happen each time you try?
- Have you applied Service Pack 1?
- Are you using a joined field?
- Can you send the data?

Thanks
Steve Lynch
ESRI

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

SilviaBologna — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 08:40:24 GMT

Yes I applied service pack1 and I'm using a not joined field of a point feature class of a personal geodatabase.
Actually the error occurs just when I am using this dataset, otherwise, with other datasets I can perform it without any problem.

Thanks

Silvia

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

SteveLynch — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 12:23:29 GMT

Please can you email me the p-geodatabase (slynch@esri.com) and for the time being copy the featureclass to f -geodatabase or shapefile.

Thanks
Steve

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

IanJohnson — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 15:11:58 GMT

Hi Hedera and Steve,

When you've reached some type of consensus on this would you please post it? I came on here to start a thread on this exact problem. I am currently running SP1 as well. Not joining to any fields.

I have experienced this same crash when doing ordinary or universal kriging. It always happens on either "Step 2 of 5" or "Step 3 of 5" when using the wizard. The I have emailed my error reports and have included my email with these reports. If it would help you Steve I can send you the address that the error reports are registered under.

Any help much appreciated!

GrizJohnson

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

SteveLynch — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 15:16:07 GMT

GrizJohnson

What format are you data that cause the crash? I.e p-geodatabase or f-geodatabase or shapefile?

Thanks
Steve

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

IanJohnson — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 15:25:32 GMT

I am working out of a personal geodatabase.

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

SteveLynch — Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:51:24 GMT

We have a problem with some p-geodatabases in ArcGIS Geostatistical Analyst in version 10. Please convert your data to f-geodatabase (or shapefile).

We are hoping to have a fix available post version 10 Service Pack 2.

Sorry for the inconvenience
Steve Lynch
ESRI

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

IanJohnson — Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:58:57 GMT

We have a problem with some p-geodatabases in ArcGIS Geostatistical Analyst in version 10. Please convert your data to f-geodatabase (or shapefile).

We are hoping to have a fix available post version 10 Service Pack 2.

Sorry for the inconvenience
Steve Lynch
ESRI

Hi Steve,

I have been working out of a F-GeoDbase per your suggestion and GeoStatistical Analyst has been working perfectly. Thank you.

Ian

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

TimCushman — Mon, 09 May 2011 19:21:43 GMT

I'm having the same GA crashing problem, but I have been using a joined field? Why can't you use a joined field?

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

SteveLynch — Mon, 09 May 2011 19:23:52 GMT

Are you using
10 Final
10 SP1
10 SP2

Thanks
Steve

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

TimCushman — Mon, 09 May 2011 19:27:31 GMT

10 Final. I'm also using a temporary GA evaluation license, if that makes a difference.

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

SteveLynch — Mon, 09 May 2011 19:46:14 GMT

Fixed in 10SP1. Reference number is NIM060172

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

TimCushman — Tue, 10 May 2011 13:32:08 GMT

I installed SP1 and SP2 and GA works fine on join tables now. My other issue is that I can't export my GA results to vector or raster. Every time I try, I get ERROR code 000966: The input layer is not valid. The analysis results also say "Output feature class: <empty>".

Do you know why I can't export my results? Thanks.

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

SteveLynch — Tue, 10 May 2011 13:53:44 GMT

please send your layer and datasets used to create it to slynch@esri.com

Steve

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

TimCushman — Tue, 10 May 2011 18:32:16 GMT

It seems that exporting to a File GDB may have solved my problem. When I export to vector (saving it to a file GDB), the export GA Layer to Contour works just fine. Thanks.

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

BryceStath — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 14:23:07 GMT

I'm having some problems exporting GA layers to grids in Arc10 SP2.

I re-wrote the script I was using and it worked fine for small, sample datasets, but when applied to larger datasets I got this very strange error about incompatible characters in my .GA:LayerToGrid statement which looked like

arcpy.GALayerToGrid_ga(Lyrf1bc, outGAf1bc, cellSize, cellptsHor, cellptsVer) with these variables
Lyrf1bc = "C:\working\Y2011\Plant\Raster\Temp\GAf1bc"
outGAf1bc = "C:\working\Y2011\Plant\Raster\Outputs\junk2"
cellSize = 1
cellptsHor = 1
cellptsVer = 1

I tried using letters only and short names, to no avail. So then I tried to back up and test it a little more manually, and still have problems.

So I decided to manually create the GA layers in the GeoStat wizard and batch export them to grid overnight.... This morning only one exported. In the past (9.3) this would be something that would take maybe 4 hours. I am using the same cell size and parameters as previous runs, so the datasets themselves shouldn't be that different.

I'm currently trying to export a GA layer manually (right click in ToC) and it's producing the same behavior, VERY slow exporting.

Any thoughts?

thanks

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

SteveLynch — Fri, 03 Jun 2011 14:32:13 GMT

Bryce

Could you pachage the GA layer (in the following toolset, DataManagement->Package) and post it to the Forum or email it to me (slynch@esri.com)

also, please let me know the cell size and raster format (grid or fGDB or ?) that you are exporting to.

And, BTW, do you have any geoprocessing environments set, i.e analysis cell size, extent, snap raster, output coordinate system?

And, BTW, the GALayerToGrid geoprocessing tool is the same that is used when right clicking on the GA layer and choosing Data->Export...

Thanks
Steve

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

SteveLynch — Mon, 06 Jun 2011 20:49:46 GMT

We changed our searching neighborhood algorithm for ArcGIS 10. It appears that this is the cause of your speed issue. We made it more robust but appears that in your case it slowed down the process considerably. We�??re looking into fixing it.

However, if you change the Sector type to 1 sector it�??ll be fast or you could also keep the 4 sectors but change the minimum neighbors to 0 and it�??ll be fast.

The data that Bryce has is very densly sampled and the change of neighborhood will therefore not impact the predictions.

Hope this helps
Steve

Re: Ordinary Kriging_Serious Application Error

JoannaWhittier — Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:08:38 GMT

I am having the same problem initially mentioned in this thread. I did not have SP1 installed so just installed SP2. It appeared that SP2 should have included previous fixes. However after rebooting, creating new personal geodatabases, ArcMap still crashes when I try kriging using a personal geodatabase. Can I install SP1 after SP2? I was going to uninstall SP2 but cannot find it listed in the programs from the control panel.