topic Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph in ArcGIS Experience Builder Questions

Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

iHack — Wed, 01 Feb 2023 22:00:32 GMT

I have multiple elevation surfaces including an elevation ground surface layer and two other raster layers containing groundwater surface elevation values under different scenarios. I would like to create a stacked profile similar to how the Stack Profile 3D Analyst GP tool works in ArcGIS Pro. It seems that the Elevation Profile widget in Experience Builder as well as in the Exploratory 3D Analysis Elevation Profile tool in ArcGIS Pro is limited to only displaying one layer at a time in the profile graph. Is there a way to show multiple elevation surfaces in a single Elevation Profile graph [on the same axis] using this widget or by any other method in Experience Builder or the Elevation Profile Exploratory Analysis Tool in ArcGIS Pro?

This is how the tool currently looks with only one elevation surface layer (ground surface elevation)

I would like to produce something like this

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

AlixVezina — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 00:42:54 GMT

Hi @iHack ,

Thank you for your question.

Right now, you can achieve something similar to this with selected line features on the map. You'll need to enable the advanced settings in the configuration a profile will be shown for selected lines accross different layers.

In the upcoming update, we are also going to support Mesh layers along with other volumetric objects. Like in this sample.

There can only be one layer defined as ground, so your other elevation layers would need to be a Mesh or Scene Layer. Now, we're not planning to support multiple "stacked" Scene/Mes layers. They're going to be combined into one representation.

Which means you will only be able to represent the ground elevation profile with only one of your groundwater surfaces at the time.

Another option, but not optimal, is to add the Elevation profile widget multiple times and to change which elevation layer is used (use your groundwater surface elevation layers instead) so it can be compared between widgets.

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

iHack — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 00:58:10 GMT

@AlixVezina , thank you for responding. The first solution you mentioned may not be ideal for what I'm trying to do. I would like to have a single line selected, with multiple elevation surface layers in the profile graph. I assume this would only be for selecting an existing line; not interactively drawing a line using the widget.

When is the next update expected to be released? In this update, would I be able to switch between each 3D mesh or scene layer from the same widget?

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

AlixVezina — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 17:54:49 GMT

"I would like to have a single line selected, with multiple elevation surface layers in the profile graph."

- That will not be possible, only elevation surface layer at the time: 1 ground layer + 1 mesh/scene layer. Like here: sample.

"I assume this would only be for selecting an existing line; not interactively drawing a line using the widget."

- Both. If there are line features in the map as well, you can select them and it will show the ground elevation profile, the mesh profile and then the profile for that selected line if Advanced settings are enabled.

"When is the next update expected to be released?"

- End of February for ArcGIS Online.

"In this update, would I be able to switch between each 3D mesh or scene layer from the same widget?"

- No. Only one 3D mesh or scene layer per widget. Example (note this is still a work in progress and display is a little off):

There are 3 sources of elevation here:

The ground elevation (brown) - use the default or define your own
The mesh buildings layer (pink) - this would need to be your groundwater surface elevation scene layer
The line feature layer with elevation values (red) - this is the selected line to render this graph

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

ChungBuiMinh — Fri, 04 Aug 2023 09:23:57 GMT

Hi @AlixVezina, I really want to know do you guys have any updates for the issue. Because we need to show it on the profile online too. Only Arcgis Pro can do this. And I've already tried Experice Builder but it's quite slow.

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

AlixVezina — Fri, 04 Aug 2023 16:47:39 GMT

@ChungBuiMinh You can use the elevation layer to show a ground elevation and also display the profile for another elevation layer using a mesh/scene layer. Enable Volumetric objects under Profile Settings:

Sample: Elevation Profile - Volumetric objects - Overview (arcgis.com)

You'll still be able to display selected and intersecting features on top of that.

Is this what you are looking for?

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

AndrewGohF3 — Sun, 06 Aug 2023 12:55:54 GMT

Unfortunately I am unable to find the "advanced setting" tick box in my arcgis online experience builder.

I also need to display multiple profiles on the same line, but currently restricted to only a single profile.

Can you please advise?

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

ChungBuiMinh — Mon, 07 Aug 2023 01:05:29 GMT

Hi @AndrewGohF3 , I got the same issue and still waiting solution from Esri.

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

ChungBuiMinh — Mon, 07 Aug 2023 01:06:22 GMT

Hi @AlixVezina, I've already sent an email to you. Please help me check. Thank you so much.

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

AlixVezina — Mon, 07 Aug 2023 13:23:51 GMT

In the latest June update, the "Advanced settings" section was updated to reflect two sections: Selectable Layers and Intersecting Layers.

Under Profile settings, you can configure the ground elevation profile layer and enable the profile for scene and mesh layers

Enable the selectable layer to select line features on your map to view their profile along the ground or relative to the ground.

Enable intersecting layers to view where features intersect with the profile you generated by drawing or selecting features.

What kind of data are you working with and what are you trying to visualize?

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

David_Brooks — Wed, 30 Aug 2023 11:10:16 GMT

@AlixVezina can you advise why there isn't a plan to implement multiple elevation sources on a single profile graph, when it appears to have been implemented quite simplistically here: https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-javascript-maps-sdk-questions/elevation-profile-widget-experience-builder-multi/m-p/1159214

We would like our users to have the functionality in the OOTB experience builder widget, but to be able to export to CSV and view profile line statistics for the ground elevation source.

Also, is it possible to use the profile widget in a 2D map with an image service (with LERC compression) as the elevation source?

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

AlixVezina — Wed, 30 Aug 2023 16:00:39 GMT

@David_Brooks We understand that support for multiple elevation surfaces is needed and will be working on it as soon as possible.

Also, is it possible to use the profile widget in a 2D map with an image service (with LERC compression) as the elevation source?

Yes. See Elevation Profile widget—ArcGIS Experience Builder | Documentation

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

AdrienneAiken — Thu, 19 Oct 2023 13:12:04 GMT

Is there any chance of creating something like this with any of ESRI's products, where a profile of the groundwater elevation is shown in relation to the ground surface? @AlixVezina

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

AlixVezina — Thu, 19 Oct 2023 14:42:55 GMT

@AdrienneAiken Using a web scene and a scene layer, you can enable Volumetric objects in the Elevation Profile widget.

Right now you would only be able to view one scene layer at a time compared to the ground elevation.

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

AlixVezina — Wed, 25 Oct 2023 19:56:08 GMT

I just wanted to provide an update regarding this request, as I am aware many of you are looking forward to this.

Right now, we need to make important library updates to the widget for the upcoming February 2024 release.

This means this enhancement will be considered for the June 2024 release.

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

RobertPoulsen — Thu, 07 Dec 2023 19:39:27 GMT

Would also very much like to be able to simultaneous profile multiple elevation layers in AGOL and in Pro. Does terrain mapping using drones in earthworks projects and would really like to have the ability to compare multiple elevations layers. Both as a tool for our selves but also for non-GIS clients to have easy functionality to follow how earthwork is progressing. Having repetetive mapping of the same location, a profile tool with multiple elevation layers, would also offer a valuable functionality to assess the precision inbetween multiple drone mappings. Please promote the development of this feature for both AGOL and Pro.

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

MaryElizabethMcQuillan — Tue, 19 Dec 2023 15:48:03 GMT

This allow export setting does not show for my widget in experience builder.

Re: Elevation Profile Widget - Create Profile Over Multiple Elevation Surfaces in the Same Graph

AlixVezina — Tue, 19 Dec 2023 16:40:33 GMT

Hi @MaryElizabethMcQuillan, since this was released with ArcGIS Online in June, you will not see this option if are you in ArcGIS Enterprise 11.1 or earlier.