topic Re: Should I upgrade to ArcGIS 10.4.1, or wait for 10.5? in ArcGIS Enterprise Questions

Should I upgrade to ArcGIS 10.4.1, or wait for 10.5?

EricHeinrichs — Tue, 22 Nov 2016 21:21:15 GMT

After a very busy summer season, we finally have some downtime to deal with some server and other back-end issues.

We have ArcGIS 10.3.1 installed right now, and we are looking at updating to the latest release of Server and Portal.

Should we go ahead and upgrade to 10.4.1, or should we wait until next month, when 10.5 is slated for release.

I have never done an update before, and I wasn't around to set up our original install, so I am not sure how much work it will be.

Re: Should I upgrade to ArcGIS 10.4.1, or wait for 10.5?

DerekLaw — Tue, 22 Nov 2016 22:34:16 GMT

Hi Eric,

I would wait until ArcGIS Enterprise 10.5 (the new name for the ArcGIS for Server product) is released next month. You will get all the latest enhancements and it is an in-place upgrade.

And to learn more about ArcGIS Enterprise: What is ArcGIS Enterprise?—Documentation | ArcGIS for Server

Hope this helps,

Re: Should I upgrade to ArcGIS 10.4.1, or wait for 10.5?

EricHeinrichs — Wed, 23 Nov 2016 14:10:44 GMT

Hi Derek,

Thanks for your input! We will wait until 10.5 is released before we update.

Re: Should I upgrade to ArcGIS 10.4.1, or wait for 10.5?

DerekLaw — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 20:48:16 GMT

Hi Eric,

FYI, ArcGIS 10.5 final is now available for download from Esri Accounts.

The following products are available with this release:

ArcGIS Desktop
ArcGIS Enterprise (Windows) – Includes Portal
ArcGIS Enterprise (Linux) – Includes Portal
ArcGIS Enterprise Workgroup – in Enterprise (Windows)
ArcGIS Engine Developer Kit
ArcGIS Engine
ArcGIS for INSPIRE
Esri Business Analyst Desktop with 2016 U.S. Data
Esri Business Analyst Server with 2016 U.S. Data
ArcGIS for Aviation: Airports
ArcGIS for Aviation: Charting
ArcGIS for Maritime: Bathymetry
ArcGIS for Maritime: Charting
Esri Defense Mapping
Esri Production Mapping
ArcGIS Pipeline Referencing
Esri Roads and Highways

Enjoy and happy holidays,

Re: Should I upgrade to ArcGIS 10.4.1, or wait for 10.5?

DanPatterson_Retired — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 20:53:46 GMT

Derek... want to wander over here and fill in some gaps https://community.esri.com/thread/187532-arcmap-105-python-version

I want to know whether it is even worth installing 10.5. Especially if PRO 1.4 is going to have all the functionality of ArcMap (distinct rumour) but at least a version of python and its kin that are more relevant and recent

Re: Should I upgrade to ArcGIS 10.4.1, or wait for 10.5?

DerekLaw — Fri, 16 Dec 2016 23:00:20 GMT

Hi Dan,

Sorry, but I don't know which Python release is being used in the ArcGIS 10.5 release. Checking your thread, I do see some activity and it looks like Melita Kennedy‌ confirmed that the python version was not updated. I am trying to verify with some folks on the Dev team, but it is close to the holidays and many folks are out on vacation. I will post an update when I hear something back.

Hope this helps,

Re: Should I upgrade to ArcGIS 10.4.1, or wait for 10.5?

DanPatterson_Retired — Fri, 16 Dec 2016 23:26:19 GMT

Thanks Derek... I think I am going to skip 10.5 altogether.

Not much offered that I need and the 'fixed by...' documentation didn't flag anything that affected me.

I am more interested in what is coming in PRO. If PRO 1.4 remains the same with their conda distribution.. or (wishing) has upgraded python, numpy and scipy, that is more of interest from an analysis perspective.

Re: Should I upgrade to ArcGIS 10.4.1, or wait for 10.5?

DerekLaw — Sat, 17 Dec 2016 00:16:23 GMT

Hi Dan,

Finally heard back from the Dev team, here are the Python package versions included with ArcGIS 10.5 final release:

python 2.7.12
numpy 1.9.3
scipy 0.17.0
matplotlib 1.5.2

Hope this helps and happy holidays,

Re: Should I upgrade to ArcGIS 10.4.1, or wait for 10.5?

DanPatterson_Retired — Sat, 17 Dec 2016 03:54:23 GMT

Thanks Derek, it won't help in my situation since I am using patched versions of functions that I need from python 3.5, and numpy 10 +