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    <title>topic Re: Level 18 &amp; 19 Caching Issue in ArcGIS Enterprise Questions</title>
    <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379029#M14710</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Adam&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1) yes we are using that tool&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2) we took the suggestion from ESRI documentation that i believe stated "n-1"&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;a. we were originally using 7 instances and the memory and we felt the memory and cpu&amp;nbsp;usage was rather high almost maxed so we throttled back to 6 instances.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3) i could see if reducing to 4or5 instance improves the process any, i say 4or5 in hopes that freeing up memory/cpu&amp;nbsp;would help the process somewhat&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;a. right now it appears the process it "stalled", id like to see at least some movement, even if its slow movement.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;also, when we running the same process with the same number of instances we could publish this service within a week (its a large cache), since upgrading to 10.5.1 we are now seeing this level 18/19 issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;dave&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 19:11:35 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>DaveTenney</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-01-31T19:11:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Level 18 &amp; 19 Caching Issue</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379027#M14708</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;All,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;I was wondering if anyone else has experienced an issue when trying to publish a map service where once the process reaches level 18 and 19 it seems to slow way day? I'm&amp;nbsp;talking almost to the point where it seems the process has stalled.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;here is a screenshot of the cache status, which it has been stuck at this point for almost a full 12hrs...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG class="image-1 jive-image" height="270" src="https://community.esri.com/legacyfs/online/436313_pastedImage_1.png" width="336" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Desktop Version: 10.5.1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Server Version: 10.5.1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cores: 8&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ram: 12gb&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Windows: Server 2012 R2&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I haven't&amp;nbsp;seen any errors being logged anywhere, it just seems to almost give up when it reaches this point.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;dave&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:21:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>DaveTenney</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-31T18:21:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Level 18 &amp; 19 Caching Issue</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379028#M14709</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Dave,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The process is exponentially slower because its making exponentially more data at higher levels.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Quick question, Are you using the "&lt;A href="http://desktop.arcgis.com/en/arcmap/10.3/tools/server-toolbox/manage-map-server-cache-tiles.htm"&gt;Manage Map Server Cache Tiles&lt;/A&gt;" tool?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you have 8 cores , what are you setting for the "num_of_caching_service_instances" parameter?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Do you think&amp;nbsp;altering this might help some?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:43:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379028#M14709</guid>
      <dc:creator>AdamEversole1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-31T18:43:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Level 18 &amp; 19 Caching Issue</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379029#M14710</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Adam&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1) yes we are using that tool&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2) we took the suggestion from ESRI documentation that i believe stated "n-1"&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;a. we were originally using 7 instances and the memory and we felt the memory and cpu&amp;nbsp;usage was rather high almost maxed so we throttled back to 6 instances.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;3) i could see if reducing to 4or5 instance improves the process any, i say 4or5 in hopes that freeing up memory/cpu&amp;nbsp;would help the process somewhat&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;a. right now it appears the process it "stalled", id like to see at least some movement, even if its slow movement.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;also, when we running the same process with the same number of instances we could publish this service within a week (its a large cache), since upgrading to 10.5.1 we are now seeing this level 18/19 issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;dave&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 19:11:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379029#M14710</guid>
      <dc:creator>DaveTenney</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-31T19:11:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Level 18 &amp; 19 Caching Issue</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379030#M14711</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hey Dave,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A slow roll up a steady incline will hopefully get the job done eventually compared to running into a cliff at full speed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Are the server logs saying about the caching service? anything useful appearing there?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cheers,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-Adam&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:01:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379030#M14711</guid>
      <dc:creator>AdamEversole1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-01-31T20:01:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Level 18 &amp; 19 Caching Issue</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379031#M14712</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Dave, A follow up with some Documentation:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-&amp;nbsp;&lt;A class="link-titled" href="http://enterprise.arcgis.com/en/server/latest/publish-services/windows/tips-and-best-practices-for-map-caches.htm" title="http://enterprise.arcgis.com/en/server/latest/publish-services/windows/tips-and-best-practices-for-map-caches.htm"&gt;Tips and best practices for map caches—Documentation | ArcGIS Enterprise&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The section "Creating a Cache" it has some good notes about map building, setting Log level and&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="http://enterprise.arcgis.com/en/server/latest/publish-services/windows/allocation-of-server-resources-to-caching.htm"&gt;allocation of server resources.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 01:22:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379031#M14712</guid>
      <dc:creator>AdamEversole1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-02-01T01:22:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Level 18 &amp; 19 Caching Issue</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379032#M14713</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Adam,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; i wanted to ask you a question that i hope you can answer...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What is the suggested process in upgrading a deployment from a version like 10.2.2 to 10.5.1?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;1) more specifically, with the existing services on multiple server being created by 10.2.2 but now running 10.5.1 software, will that cause any issues?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2) i was curious if ESRI would suggest that once upgraded to the new version, should all services be rebuilt completely using the new version?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;a. currently we have a process that calculates the delta from week to week and only updates what is needed&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 1. my fear with that is we will have services with tiles that are created using 10.2.2 and 10.5.1 within the same server.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i hope this makes sense as im&amp;nbsp;really curious as to what esri would suggest doing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;dave&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2019 20:06:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379032#M14713</guid>
      <dc:creator>DaveTenney</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-02-05T20:06:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Level 18 &amp; 19 Caching Issue</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379033#M14714</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Dave,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If&amp;nbsp;I may refer you to the documentation again, I think this page here might answer both of your questions.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;A class="link-titled" href="http://enterprise.arcgis.com/en/server/10.5/get-started/windows/existing-arcgis-server-users.htm" title="http://enterprise.arcgis.com/en/server/10.5/get-started/windows/existing-arcgis-server-users.htm"&gt;Frequently asked upgrading questions—Documentation | ArcGIS Enterprise&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I hope that helps.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- Adam&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2019 01:42:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379033#M14714</guid>
      <dc:creator>AdamEversole1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-02-06T01:42:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Level 18 &amp; 19 Caching Issue</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379034#M14715</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;All,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; i found the issue with the caching slowdown...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;somehow the spatial index got out of sort and needed to be added. i would zoom in arcmap&amp;nbsp;to levels where our addresses and roads turn on and noticed that the roads took a very long time to show and label. so i added the spatial index and that fixed the delay in display and then attempted to start the cache process back up again and it moved along much faster!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks everyone for their input on the matter.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Dave&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2019 19:18:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379034#M14715</guid>
      <dc:creator>DaveTenney</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-02-14T19:18:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Level 18 &amp; 19 Caching Issue</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379035#M14716</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi &lt;A href="https://community.esri.com/migrated-users/125140"&gt;Dave Tenney&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for sharing this. It makes sense to me too,&amp;nbsp; an issue with the spatial index would also persist when&amp;nbsp;reading the data when generating tiles, Do you think it would be helpful for us to add a note about adding and ensuring Spatial Index within the &lt;A href="http://enterprise.arcgis.com/en/server/latest/publish-services/windows/tips-and-best-practices-for-map-caches.htm"&gt;Tips and best practices for map caches&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;Documentation?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can request an addition to the documentation,&amp;nbsp; If you had any specific comments I can include them as well.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Adam&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2019 16:45:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-questions/level-18-19-caching-issue/m-p/379035#M14716</guid>
      <dc:creator>AdamEversole1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-02-19T16:45:16Z</dc:date>
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