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ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

ReneePardee — Wed, 25 Jun 2014 16:11:38 GMT

Hello,

I am trying to geocode addresses in ArcMap 10.1; when I try it gives me an error message ???The address locator is damaged, would you like to repair it? Access to this resource is forbidden, regardless of authorization???. I???ve spent several hours trying to troubleshoot the ???Access to this resource is forbidden, regardless of authorization??? part of that message. The other thread which mentions the issue talks about ArcGIS servers. Do you need ArcGIS servers in order to geocode addresses or is there another problem? I've never used this technique before, but it seems pretty straightforward.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

KateLeroux — Sun, 20 Jul 2014 03:54:04 GMT

I'm also getting this error and am interested in any help.

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

ChristopheCharpentier — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:23:02 GMT

Jeff Rogers‌ and Bruce Harold‌ will be able to help you out with this question

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

JoeBorgione — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 00:47:10 GMT

Who, what where for your locator?

Are you using your own or arcgis online? If its yours, is it published or is it local?

What type of locator(s) are you using? Are they built with 10.1 or another version?

Where are the licators you are trying to use? Local network? Some other network?

All I've done is ask more questions, but we need a bit more info to give you a hand....

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

JeffRogers — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 15:56:52 GMT

Yes, we need a bit more information.

Could you please describe the locator that you are trying to geocode against. Where it came from, if you know, how it was built?

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

KateLeroux — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 19:43:08 GMT

I'll let the original poster answer on their own, but here's my situation. I'm new to ArcGIS, just a student, and I'm working through "Getting to Know ArcGIS for Desktop" (third edition). I have ArcMap 10.1 installed on my computer.

The address locator was created locally by ME, following the directions in chapter 14a and the sample data that came with the textbook. After adding the address locator in chapter 14b, it happens when I try to close that map.

The issue is that when this error message comes up, there's no way to make it go away. Hitting either button (Yes or No) just causes the error window to pop back up in a couple seconds. I have to manually kill ArcGIS and related processes to make it stop - just quitting the program isn't enough.

I can continue to progress by just moving on to the next chapter, but if there's a way to troubleshoot or fix this problem, or even just understand it better, that would help me learn more. Thanks!

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

JoeBorgione — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:36:52 GMT

Kate- I'm not familiar with the Getting To Know workbook as I've been geocoding for more years than I care to admit.... I'll see of there is an online copy I can take a look at...

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

JoeBorgione — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:40:43 GMT

Kate- sorry, nothing online for me to see. It's all 'pay for view'... My guess is something is goofy in the workbook directions.

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

AgathaWong — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:18:02 GMT

Kate, I would need a reproducible case with data to troubleshoot. Would you please zip up the locator and email it to me along with the reproducible steps? My email address is awong@esri.com.

Here a couple reasons that the locator can be broken:

The locator was created on a network drive or database that the connection is no longer
available for some reasons.
The locator is missing a file or critical properties.

I would suggest to try the geocoding tutorials

http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.2/#/About_the_Geocoding_tutorial/002500000006000000/

and see if you still have the same problem. It seems unusual for you to see the error message like that. But I would like to see if it is a data issue or not.

Thanks.

Agatha

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

ReneePardee — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:24:07 GMT

Hello everyone,

Thanks for replying. I work for a college in New Mexico and I want to use addresses to create maps about our students. I need to geocode street addresses so we can visualize different patterns (dot density of different GPAs, etc). I eventually want to geocode for the whole country so we can see where all our students are coming from. Plus we have lots of online courses available, so it would be interesting to see where those students are.

I was trying to use the geocode built into ArcGIS, World Geocode Service, by right clicking on my table with regular street addresses. That's when the "Not Authorized" error occurred. I called ESRI and they told me that this service is no longer available for free, that you have to either make your own geocode or pay for the geocoding services through their new credit system.

After this I tried to create my own geocoder but the data I downloaded off the USDA website only had the street name available, none of the other attribute fields are useful for geocoding. This data didn't work of course because my addresses have the number before the street name. If it had worked I would just download all the other states, but there is no house number range in the attribute table.

Also, my excel table with the student addresses needs formatting. Is SAS a good way to format tables for geocoding? I need to remove the students from the table with null values for their address and some students have the 4digit extension attached to their zip code. I started to go through the data manually, before deciding that was an absolutely ridiculous idea since we have thousands of students.

I'm a beginner at SAS, so any advice about using SAS to create data for ArcGIS would be very helpful.

Thank you,

Renee

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

JoeBorgione — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:34:53 GMT

Ahhh... the old AGOL pay to play thing.....

With respect to you SAS question, any database is probably better than Excel for this type of manipulation. I like excel.... to invoice my clients and submit my earnings to my tax guy. You can import your excel worksheet(s) into a file geodatabse and then essentially have it in the ArcGIS native database format. I'm not familiar with SAS and importing it to or connecting from ArcGIS.

Before you start formatting your address list, you may want to concentrate on obtaining some street data you can actually match against. If you format your addresses before you get something to match against, you run the risk of have to re-format them so they'll work with your matching data. Take a look here: New Mexico Resource Geographic Information Systems‌.

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

ReneePardee — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 19:08:54 GMT

Thanks Joe! Which data do you usually use to geocode? I've looked through the transportation and census metadata and could not find any file with street names, number ranges, etc. in-order to do street level geocoding. Is there a better section to look in?

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

JoeBorgione — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 19:25:10 GMT

At the moment I geocode against streets. However, I'll be using address points soon. I don't use anything in NM, I just googled NM GIS and found the website.

I just downloaded the E911 roads for Bernalillo County, and they have names and address ranges. If you need national data, there is some that ships with the ESRI software discs, or Census has them by state (I think).

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

AgathaWong — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 20:39:23 GMT

ArcGIS for Desktop ships with the complete Data & Maps collection on DVD. It provides the North America locators that you can use for geocoding. Please keep in mind that the locators were built with different and older datasets as compared with ArcGIS Online. While the ArcGIS Online World geocode service offers the better quality, using the locators in the Data & Maps DVD can be a good start. On the ArcGIS Desktop help, there is a book called Datasets provided with ArcGIS under Geodata. It provides you detailed information of the data.

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

ReneePardee — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 21:07:59 GMT

Joe, thanks for checking. I just checked the E911 roads for my county and they are missing roads... but I will keep looking! The missing roads could be from growth, I can't remember how much we've grown since 2009.

Agatha, thank you for mentioning this. I knew I should have this data available. The problem is that I wasn't permitted to install ArcGIS myself, the computer support folks had to do it (can't step on another departments' toes!) and I wasn't in my office when they did. I sent them an e-mail, so hopefully they will be able to find the maps & data collection DVD.

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

KateLeroux — Tue, 22 Jul 2014 23:30:22 GMT

Hi Agatha Wong,

Thank you for your offer to look into this! I went back to reproduce the issue and figured out the problem. I'll post it here in case any other students are looking for it.

In working through Chapter 14, the 'Atlanta customers' address locator is created and then used in each exercise. If, like me, you happen to close ArcMap between exercises, that address locator is not immediately available after re-opening. You will need to add it again using Manage Address Locators on the Geocoding toolbar. Otherwise, the default address locator (10.0 North America Geocode Service - ArcGIS Online) is chosen.

It seems that if I try using this other locator even once, I start getting the error message repeatedly. ArcMap and its related processes must be killed manually to make it stop.

Kate

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

ReneePardee — Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:49:33 GMT

I now have ESRI Data & Maps on my computer. I attempted to geocode and over half my fields were geocoded! It was a miracle. So I used the next set of of data I prepared for geocoding and tried again, this produced 60% match. I realized I'd filtered out many addresses in SAS, took that portion of code out and geocoded again. There are around 7000 records, verses 2200 in the first attempt, and now it now won't geocode. The process moved pretty quickly, so I don't understand how the exact same method of preparing data, but with more records would stall out the process. Nothing else is running on my computer except firefox.

Any Ideas?

Also, what dies 'tied' mean?

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

IanMurray — Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:57:14 GMT

tied merely means that two address get the same score in matching(usually when a road name has different suffixs, or names i.e. US 72 N vs US 72 S for the same address, or US 72 N vs US 72, etc). When tied you can manually pick a match between the tied records.

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

JeffRogers — Tue, 29 Jul 2014 22:01:25 GMT

Renee, tied means that there are two or more equal candidates for an address. In Los Angeles for example there is one city name "Los Angeles" and within this city there may be 50 postal codes. If you provide an address such as 123 Figueroa St Los Angeles, there may be 10, 123 Figueroa St in Los Angeles but each of these could be in a different postal code. When a address includes less than all the information required to uniquely identify it, it may match to more than one candidate address. We call this situation a tie.

Re: ArcGIS Server in order to Geocode addresses?

ReneePardee — Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:03:18 GMT

Thanks for the answers. If ever there was a fickle mistress, it is ArcGIS. Today I had a 54% match on my group of 7000 addresses, and an almost complete match if I use just zipcodes. Now I just need to figure out how to meld them together.