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Does the option "Feature Access" requires the database to be SDE?

JamalNUMAN — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 21:25:36 GMT

Does the option "Feature Access" requires the database to be SDE?

I???m not sure if the option that enables performing editing over the web requires the database to be SDE (not file or personal)

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Thank you

Best

Jamal

Re: Does the option "Feature Access" requires the database to be SDE?

JonathanQuinn — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 22:59:01 GMT

Yes, feature services require SDE databases as the location of the data within the service. The help lists the steps to go through when you want to publish a feature service.

Re: Does the option "Feature Access" requires the database to be SDE?

Anonymous User — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 19:16:12 GMT

Original User: Jamal432@gmail.com

Yes, feature services require SDE databases as the location of the data within the service. The help lists the steps to go through when you want to publish a feature service.

Thank you Jonathan for the help,

Is the SDE geodatabase required to be versioned (move edits to base or non-move edits to base) with global ID?

Does it work with unversioned SDE geodatabase?

Best

Jamal

Re: Does the option "Feature Access" requires the database to be SDE?

nicogis — Fri, 08 Feb 2013 15:43:25 GMT

if you want replicate two-way you need GlobalID without check 'move edits to base' for version

for prepare data here details: http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/0154/0154000003nt000000.htm

if you haven't: arcgis desktop std or/and basic, server machine, arcgis server and you want create feature service you can purchase a subscription arcgisonline:
here there is trial http://www.arcgis.com/about/trial.html
here there is calculator for stimate your credits: http://www.esri.com/software/arcgis/arcgisonline/credits/estimator

Re: Does the option "Feature Access" requires the database to be SDE?

Anonymous User — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:11:48 GMT

Original User: Jamal432@gmail.com

if you want replicate two-way you need GlobalID without check 'move edits to base' for version

for prepare data here details: http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/0154/0154000003nt000000.htm

if you haven't: arcgis desktop std or/and basic, server machine, arcgis server and you want create feature service you can purchase a subscription arcgisonline:
here there is trial http://www.arcgis.com/about/trial.html
here there is calculator for stimate your credits: http://www.esri.com/software/arcgis/arcgisonline/credits/estimator

Thank you Domenico for the elaboration,

My issue here is to allow editing of the database over the web and

1. First, I wanted to know if this process requires the database to be SDE (doesn�??t work with file and personal geodatabase).

2. Then I wanted to know whether this SDE needs to be Versioned or Unversioned

3. Then I wanted to know if this Versioned SDE can be �??move edits to base�?� or �??non-move edits to base�?�

Best

Jamal

Re: Does the option "Feature Access" requires the database to be SDE?

nicogis — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:33:22 GMT

"..The layers and tables that you add to the map document are exposed by the service. The following describe feature service data requirements:
??? All data must be from a single ArcSDE geodatabase.
??? All data must be registered with the geodatabase.
??? Write permissions for the ArcSDE data are required if you plan to allow edits to the data. When using OS authentication, these permissions must be granted to the ArcGIS Server account.
??? Versioned and nonversioned data are supported; however, versioning is required if you plan on editing nonsimple types (for example, network edges) with the service. Unless required, it is recommended that the data be nonversioned. Nonversioned data scales better for editing.

The following data types are not supported in feature services:
??? Annotations
??? Dimensions
???Terrains
???Raster datasets
??? Layers and tables based on SDE views

If these layers are present in your map document when you attempt to publish a map service with feature access enabled, you will encounter analyzer errors...."

here the details: http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/index.html#//0154000003nt000000

'not move' gives you advantage of all versioned editing functionality : example you can do editing service feature in arcmap (because arcgis do a "local copy for editing" and so you need 'versioned', 'not move' and globalid (for replication)

here the details http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/index.html#//003n000000rp000000

Re: Does the option "Feature Access" requires the database to be SDE?

Anonymous User — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 20:54:27 GMT

Original User: Jamal432@gmail.com

"..The layers and tables that you add to the map document are exposed by the service. The following describe feature service data requirements:
�?� All data must be from a single ArcSDE geodatabase.
�?� All data must be registered with the geodatabase.
�?� Write permissions for the ArcSDE data are required if you plan to allow edits to the data. When using OS authentication, these permissions must be granted to the ArcGIS Server account.
�?� Versioned and nonversioned data are supported; however, versioning is required if you plan on editing nonsimple types (for example, network edges) with the service. Unless required, it is recommended that the data be nonversioned. Nonversioned data scales better for editing.

The following data types are not supported in feature services:
�?� Annotations
�?� Dimensions
�?�Terrains
�?�Raster datasets
�?� Layers and tables based on SDE views

If these layers are present in your map document when you attempt to publish a map service with feature access enabled, you will encounter analyzer errors...."

here the details: http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/index.html#//0154000003nt000000

'not move' gives you advantage of all versioned editing functionality : example you can do editing service feature in arcmap (because arcgis do a "local copy for editing" and so you need 'versioned', 'not move' and globalid (for replication)

here the details http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/index.html#//003n000000rp000000

Thank you Domenico for the elaboration. This is very helpful.

By the way, if all functions of versioning are included in the �??non-move edits to base�?� version then what is the justification for the �??move edits to base�?� option?

For which purpose one might choose �??move edits to base�?� option?

Best

Jamal

Re: Does the option "Feature Access" requires the database to be SDE?

nicogis — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:43:14 GMT

"if the ability to easily share the data with third-party applications is a priority. Registering as versioned with the option to move edits to base is useful if you require the benefits of versions but also need to share updates with applications other than ArcGIS"

Deciding how to register data
see here the details: http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/003n/003n000000t0000000.htm

Re: Does the option "Feature Access" requires the database to be SDE?

Anonymous User — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:14:36 GMT

Original User: Jamal432@gmail.com

"if the ability to easily share the data with third-party applications is a priority. Registering as versioned with the option to move edits to base is useful if you require the benefits of versions but also need to share updates with applications other than ArcGIS"

Deciding how to register data
see here the details: http://resources.arcgis.com/en/help/main/10.1/003n/003n000000t0000000.htm

Thank you for the input Domenico.

As an example, for me, I�??m using SQL server as database platform, do I EVER need to go for the �??move edits to base�?� option?

Going to this option (in my case) will be �??depraving�?� me from enjoying �??archiving�?� property, for instance. I expect to lose much more other functions. This is in parallel to NOT gaining any single benefit from choosing it (�??move edits to base�?�).

am i correct?

Best

Jamal

Re: Does the option "Feature Access" requires the database to be SDE?

nicogis — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:24:17 GMT

this image:

help you decide.

see also this video: http://video.esri.com/watch/1175/building-web-editing-applications-with-arcgis-10.1-for-server

Re: Does the option "Feature Access" requires the database to be SDE?

Anonymous User — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:59:53 GMT

Original User: Jamal432@gmail.com

this image:

help you decide.

see also this video: http://video.esri.com/watch/1175/building-web-editing-applications-with-arcgis-10.1-for-server

Many thanks Domenico.

I had a look at this flowchart from your previous link that you have supplied.

My issue at this point is precise!

1. There are no �??side effects�?� when using the versioning without �??mover edits to base�?� in terms of losing capabilities such as
a. Archiving
b. Working with complex data

2. There are �??side effects�?� when using versions with �??mover edits to base�?� such as
a. Losing the archiving function
b. Losing to working with complex data

3. My understanding that the only difference between version with �??move edits to base�?� / without �??move edits to base�?� is that the edits are reflected directly to the database! Then who cares!

4. What people will lose if they choose all the time the without �??move edits to base�?� option EVEN IN CASE:
a. THEY DON�??T NEED TO HAVE ARCHIVING FUNCTIONS
b. THEY DON�??T HAVE COMPLEX DATA

Based on what I read and the feedback, there is no need at all to have the �??move edits to base�?� option. We can all the time choose the option without �??move edits to base�?�.

Best

Jamal