idea Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters in ArcGIS Enterprise Ideas

Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

MaximeDemers — Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:38:08 GMT

Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

Re: Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

ThomasEdghill — Fri, 21 Sep 2018 23:22:01 GMT

Maxime Demers‌ are you able to expand a bit about the parameters you wish to be changed? I'd like to understand some more about which parameters you find yourself regularly having to switch, and how often you publish GP Services to get an idea of how regularly you are tasked with altering the default parameters.

Furthermore, is this something that you would like to be configured at a per-site basis, or a per-user basis? For example, would you like all users connecting to the same ArcGIS Server to face the same default values, configured by an Administrator? Or is there another way that you envision this request being fulfilled?

Re: Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

MaximeDemers — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 11:58:15 GMT

Hello Thomas Edghill,

The point of my request is the following. To be able to publish a geoprocessing service to ArcGIS Server, you have to run it first in ArcGIS Desktop. The parameter values you defined in ArcGIS Desktop for the service will automatically become the default parameter values published on ArcGIS Server.

That behavior is not really logical according to me. You don't necessary want to publish the parameters values that was used for testing the service during the publication process. Sometimes, you don't want default parameter values at all.

I hope that will clarify my point. Thank you very much for your interest in this idea.

Maxime Demers

Re: Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

ThomasEdghill — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 20:05:31 GMT

Hello Maxime,

Thank you for this clarification! I now have more understanding that you are referring to the inputs which must be defined in the script/model used to publish the GP Service.

If I may ask a further clarifying question, I'd like to know some more about how you use your GP Services. Are they typically used in a Web Application such as Web AppBuilder, something custom-built, or some other way?

Best,

Thomas

Re: Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

FlorianSteiner — Mon, 14 Oct 2019 09:10:21 GMT

Hi Thomas,

I would like to answer your questions, since I have the same problem. We use GP-Services in a custom-built web app. We had to define an own "default" empty value (#) that is transferred to the GP-Service in order to overwrite these default values, if necessary.

Hope that helps!

Best regards,
Florian

Re: Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

SigamGeo — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 16:51:15 GMT

My GP Service uses a security key parameter (string). This key is given as default value to anyone who knows the rest url in the submit job page. I have to try to input a fake key and modify it hard coded in Python when running the tool in AG, then modify the script back in the published service folder.

Re: Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

MaximeDemers — Thu, 15 Jul 2021 13:39:59 GMT

You could do something like this to make the script run completely only when published on server:

from platform import node

if node() == 'your_server_machine_name':
  #here you put your gp service script‍‍‍‍

When you run the script with empty input parameters on your desktop, there will be no output so no default value when published to the server

Re: Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

Bernd_Loigge — Wed, 20 Apr 2022 11:54:43 GMT

And again - this is so unbelievable frustrating with this product called ESRI / ArcGis Pro / ArcGIS Enterprise / whatever product runs under your flag - why is this implemented this way? Who approves this during development? Why are the values set per default when publishing the WebTool? In the properties of the parameter section of the python script which I publish, I am not setting any default values - so I would expect that the script will get published without any DEFAULT VALUES!!!!! This makes 0, zero, no sense

Re: Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

MatthewGeorge — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 05:03:00 GMT

This is extremely frustrating. The default value for a Feature Layer input causes geometry types to be filtered to only those of the original input. The filter can be removed by editing the JSON for Web AppBuilder apps but means that I have to go and do this every time I create a new app that uses this tool.

Re: Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters - Status changed to: Implemented

jill_es — Tue, 27 Feb 2024 18:06:04 GMT

This will be implemented in ArcGIS Pro 3.3 / ArcGIS Enterprise 11.3.

Re: Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

SimonSuo1 — Thu, 09 May 2024 19:27:01 GMT

With ArcGIS Pro 3.3 and later, you can publish web tools and geoprocessing services without a default value. See more about web tool settings at https://pro.arcgis.com/en/pro-app/latest/help/analysis/geoprocessing/share-analysis/web-tool-settings.htm

When you edit a tool parameter, a checkbox appears for each parameter. Each tool also has a checkbox to remove all default values for a task in the sharing pane.

Re: Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

MatthewGeorge — Thu, 09 May 2024 21:06:31 GMT

@SimonSuo1/@jill_es - thanks for the update and very glad it's been implemented! Now I just need to get all of our Enterprise implementation up to the latest versions...😅

Re: Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

JordanCarmona — Thu, 30 Jan 2025 21:12:33 GMT

@SimonSuo1 @jill_es

Is this backwards compatible with ArcGIS Enterprise versions lower than 11.3? i.e. can we benefit from removing default values by publishing in ArcGIS Pro 3.3+ to ArcGIS Server 11.2 or lower?

Re: Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

DougBrowning — Mon, 03 Feb 2025 21:33:10 GMT

And then 3.3 has a bug where it is not respecting the list of who can publish GP tools so it is limited to admins only. So I still cannot actually fix this. Sigh.

Re: Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

JordanCarmona — Mon, 03 Feb 2025 23:53:32 GMT

@DougBrowning, do you have a bug number for that? I'd like to attach my organization as an interested party.

Re: Give the possibility to remove default value for geoprocessing services parameters

DougBrowning — Tue, 04 Feb 2025 00:08:07 GMT

@JordanCarmona no sorry that was my last job actually. I was just trying to do a simple field list from a given layer but WAB cant do that anyway.