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    <title>topic ArcGIS Ent Azure Native multi node service issues (site sync and deleting services) in ArcGIS Enterprise in the cloud Questions</title>
    <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-in-the-cloud-questions/arcgis-ent-azure-native-multi-node-service-issues/m-p/1704092#M965</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi there,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am seeing a strange issue with multi node ArcGIS Server sites in both 12.0 and 12.1 using the Azure cloud native pattern.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Test environment is vanilla Azure (no landing zones or Management groups / policies) using ArcGIS Enterprise Cloud Builder 12.0 for Azure to create a 12.0 deployment do some testing then upgrade to 12.1. The environment is:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Two server deployment with full base deployment&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Using the Esri CB server images (Windows Server 2025 Datacenter)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;ArcGIS Server is deployed to Cosmos DB, Service Bus and a blob container in a Storage account (V2)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Portal for ArcGIS is using blob storage for content&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;All artefacts deployed via Cloud Builder&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Upgrade to 12.1 run after first lot of testing on both servers.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;What I see is this&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Full config store is in Cosmos DB as expected&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Both servers have a c:\arcgisserver\ local directory with \directories (arcgissystem etc.) \local and \logs (no additional data drives)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The first server has a .site folder in the&amp;nbsp;C:\arcgisserver\directories\arcgissystem with the site DAT, the second server does not have this folder (I do not know if this is expected)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_0-1779659218602.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152967i7CA018C1519DC407/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_0-1779659218602.png" alt="FraserHand_0-1779659218602.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When publishing to the server the service is published correctly to both nodes in the site and the ArcSOC processes come up for dedicated services.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_1-1779660550810.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152968i8C6A709737974F4E/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_1-1779660550810.png" alt="FraserHand_1-1779660550810.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When deleting a service, it isn't removed from the one of the nodes&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_2-1779660726202.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152969i7138ABDE34E2A201/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_2-1779660726202.png" alt="FraserHand_2-1779660726202.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_3-1779660832437.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152970iB459A2F866694A47/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_3-1779660832437.png" alt="FraserHand_3-1779660832437.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Full service definition is still in the local directory&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_4-1779660875270.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152971iB96212148C261E80/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_4-1779660875270.png" alt="FraserHand_4-1779660875270.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Same behaviour when deleting another service&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_5-1779660929086.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152972i320D5B728AD2C357/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_5-1779660929086.png" alt="FraserHand_5-1779660929086.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_8-1779660995358.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152975i1F608CFBE1EDBC18/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_8-1779660995358.png" alt="FraserHand_8-1779660995358.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When looking in cosmos db the service definition is still present&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_9-1779661162260.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152976i8C683C61C8FE4E15/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_9-1779661162260.png" alt="FraserHand_9-1779661162260.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note the content elements is null but the cosmos db entry is still there.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Server logs describe the service being removed&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_10-1779661263989.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152977iB195136DB6766FA0/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_10-1779661263989.png" alt="FraserHand_10-1779661263989.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No SEVERE or WARNING log entries to indicate the service deletion failed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This causes issues when services are republished as one of the nodes now has a stale service definition. We have seen issues where a service with updated symbology from associated font files returns missing symbols as the App Gateway load balances between the server nodes and the&amp;nbsp; second node where the service wasn't deleted returns the old service definition.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note at 12.0 we have seen issues with publishing where services are NOT present on both nodes and the&amp;nbsp;c:\arcgisserver\directories\arcgissystem\arcgisinput directory is different between the 2 ArcGIS Server nodes.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_0-1779661845343.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152978i3E72BBB9D68AA695/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_0-1779661845343.png" alt="FraserHand_0-1779661845343.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In this example node 2 was missing the entire Utilities folder and SampleworldCities as an example.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Has anyone come across this behaviour at 12.0 / 12.1? Currently our workaround is to remove the second node from the site. These have been added to support sites that require high throughput.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;EDIT: Also note that performing a synchroniseWithSite operation on the second node does not remove the deleted service definitions / folders.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;EDIT: When deleting a service via manager I can see the service only being deleted on one node:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_0-1779669221491.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152979iDC6CACF9A79CA9CF/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_0-1779669221491.png" alt="FraserHand_0-1779669221491.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;EDIT: I have been doing a bitt of further testing and even though the service folders are left behind, a subsequent publish does appear to update them at 12.1 - I am confirming this against 12.0. It seems to be inconsistent as to with node actually has the service deleted.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;EDIT: From a 12.0 multi node site when a service is deleted the service folder in \arcgisinput is usually left on the second node (fully deleted from node 1). If I republish the service *sometimes* the folder is deleted and replaced with the updated service and sometimes it isn't, leading to a mismatch service definition on node 1 and node 2. If this happens you have to delete the service then manually delete the left over folder from the second node before republishing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 03:00:51 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>FraserHand</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-05-26T03:00:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>ArcGIS Ent Azure Native multi node service issues (site sync and deleting services)</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-in-the-cloud-questions/arcgis-ent-azure-native-multi-node-service-issues/m-p/1704092#M965</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi there,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am seeing a strange issue with multi node ArcGIS Server sites in both 12.0 and 12.1 using the Azure cloud native pattern.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Test environment is vanilla Azure (no landing zones or Management groups / policies) using ArcGIS Enterprise Cloud Builder 12.0 for Azure to create a 12.0 deployment do some testing then upgrade to 12.1. The environment is:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Two server deployment with full base deployment&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Using the Esri CB server images (Windows Server 2025 Datacenter)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;ArcGIS Server is deployed to Cosmos DB, Service Bus and a blob container in a Storage account (V2)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Portal for ArcGIS is using blob storage for content&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;All artefacts deployed via Cloud Builder&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;Upgrade to 12.1 run after first lot of testing on both servers.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;&lt;P&gt;What I see is this&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Full config store is in Cosmos DB as expected&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Both servers have a c:\arcgisserver\ local directory with \directories (arcgissystem etc.) \local and \logs (no additional data drives)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The first server has a .site folder in the&amp;nbsp;C:\arcgisserver\directories\arcgissystem with the site DAT, the second server does not have this folder (I do not know if this is expected)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_0-1779659218602.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152967i7CA018C1519DC407/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_0-1779659218602.png" alt="FraserHand_0-1779659218602.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When publishing to the server the service is published correctly to both nodes in the site and the ArcSOC processes come up for dedicated services.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_1-1779660550810.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152968i8C6A709737974F4E/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_1-1779660550810.png" alt="FraserHand_1-1779660550810.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When deleting a service, it isn't removed from the one of the nodes&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_2-1779660726202.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152969i7138ABDE34E2A201/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_2-1779660726202.png" alt="FraserHand_2-1779660726202.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_3-1779660832437.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152970iB459A2F866694A47/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_3-1779660832437.png" alt="FraserHand_3-1779660832437.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Full service definition is still in the local directory&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_4-1779660875270.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152971iB96212148C261E80/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_4-1779660875270.png" alt="FraserHand_4-1779660875270.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Same behaviour when deleting another service&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_5-1779660929086.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152972i320D5B728AD2C357/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_5-1779660929086.png" alt="FraserHand_5-1779660929086.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_8-1779660995358.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152975i1F608CFBE1EDBC18/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_8-1779660995358.png" alt="FraserHand_8-1779660995358.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When looking in cosmos db the service definition is still present&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_9-1779661162260.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152976i8C683C61C8FE4E15/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_9-1779661162260.png" alt="FraserHand_9-1779661162260.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note the content elements is null but the cosmos db entry is still there.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Server logs describe the service being removed&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_10-1779661263989.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152977iB195136DB6766FA0/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_10-1779661263989.png" alt="FraserHand_10-1779661263989.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;No SEVERE or WARNING log entries to indicate the service deletion failed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This causes issues when services are republished as one of the nodes now has a stale service definition. We have seen issues where a service with updated symbology from associated font files returns missing symbols as the App Gateway load balances between the server nodes and the&amp;nbsp; second node where the service wasn't deleted returns the old service definition.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note at 12.0 we have seen issues with publishing where services are NOT present on both nodes and the&amp;nbsp;c:\arcgisserver\directories\arcgissystem\arcgisinput directory is different between the 2 ArcGIS Server nodes.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_0-1779661845343.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152978i3E72BBB9D68AA695/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_0-1779661845343.png" alt="FraserHand_0-1779661845343.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In this example node 2 was missing the entire Utilities folder and SampleworldCities as an example.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Has anyone come across this behaviour at 12.0 / 12.1? Currently our workaround is to remove the second node from the site. These have been added to support sites that require high throughput.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;EDIT: Also note that performing a synchroniseWithSite operation on the second node does not remove the deleted service definitions / folders.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;EDIT: When deleting a service via manager I can see the service only being deleted on one node:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="FraserHand_0-1779669221491.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.esri.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/152979iDC6CACF9A79CA9CF/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="FraserHand_0-1779669221491.png" alt="FraserHand_0-1779669221491.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;EDIT: I have been doing a bitt of further testing and even though the service folders are left behind, a subsequent publish does appear to update them at 12.1 - I am confirming this against 12.0. It seems to be inconsistent as to with node actually has the service deleted.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;EDIT: From a 12.0 multi node site when a service is deleted the service folder in \arcgisinput is usually left on the second node (fully deleted from node 1). If I republish the service *sometimes* the folder is deleted and replaced with the updated service and sometimes it isn't, leading to a mismatch service definition on node 1 and node 2. If this happens you have to delete the service then manually delete the left over folder from the second node before republishing.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 03:00:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-enterprise-in-the-cloud-questions/arcgis-ent-azure-native-multi-node-service-issues/m-p/1704092#M965</guid>
      <dc:creator>FraserHand</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-05-26T03:00:51Z</dc:date>
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