topic Re: Selected Extent Too Small for Get Map Data- CityEngine in ArcGIS CityEngine Questions

Selected Extent Too Small for Get Map Data- CityEngine

DavidWasserman — Wed, 04 Jan 2017 18:48:50 GMT

I keep getting this error while trying to get map data. I am not sure what I am doing incorrectly. I do this because there is a known bug in 2016.1 where you can't map to layer attributes without a raster image of some type in the scene or a layer that has an attribute whose named is shared with the rule*(See Cheryl's comment below).

I can get it to work at a very low resolution when zoomed out, but the same is not possible when zoomed in. Is there any guidance between the relationship between the resolution or extent for this feature?

Any ideas?

Relevant documentation page: Get map data from ArcGIS Online / Portal

Re: Selected Extent Too Small for Get Map Data- CityEngine

LR — Fri, 06 Jan 2017 00:40:41 GMT

Did you try unchecking the elevation raster option? Maybe it's causing problems due to its low resolution (if the service is using SRTM data, 90m would equal 1 pixel).

Re: Selected Extent Too Small for Get Map Data- CityEngine

DavidWasserman — Fri, 06 Jan 2017 01:45:35 GMT

Yes I did. I actually was not interested in elevation data in this particular case.
I ultimately got it work by dropping resolution to 1 K I think. It could be a limitation of the zoom level I was at? Have you ever had issues with really zoomed in extractions before?

Re: Selected Extent Too Small for Get Map Data- CityEngine

LR — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:22:24 GMT

I haven't used the get map feature beyond a few tests but as far as I can tell it downloads WMS tiles or at least tries. Results vary as not every location has hi res imagery available, e. g. you can get 1x1 km 4k imagery around the white house, but can't in rural areas. By decreasing the image resolution (e. g. 500x500 px) but keeping the bounding area the same you're basically requesting a chunk of a low resolution tile that may be available.

Re: Selected Extent Too Small for Get Map Data- CityEngine

DavidWasserman — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:08:49 GMT

That makes a lot of sense. It would also explain why it occurs in some areas and not others. What I found strange was that usually the base maps (not imagery) have coverage regardless of resolution level typically, but in this case it did not seem to.

Re: Selected Extent Too Small for Get Map Data- CityEngine

LR — Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:58:34 GMT

If you only need rasters you'd probably have more success with SAS.Planet.

Re: Selected Extent Too Small for Get Map Data- CityEngine

CherylLau — Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:10:24 GMT

With regards to linking layer attributes, you should be able to link to layer attributes without having to import an image. There is a bug here which disables this ability, but if you create an attribute with the same name, then layer linking should be enabled again. You don't have to use the attribute with the same name, and you can even delete it once the layer linking is enabled. https://community.esri.com/message/660438-re-connecting-attributes?commentID=660438&et=notification.mention#comment-660823

Re: Selected Extent Too Small for Get Map Data- CityEngine

DavidWasserman — Sat, 21 Jan 2017 23:04:53 GMT

I have updated the post. However, do you know why the tile has to be a minimum size and why certain base maps are hard to get at a high resolution?

Re: Selected Extent Too Small for Get Map Data- CityEngine

ThomasFuchs — Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:10:25 GMT

The tile server needs to re-project the base map data of the requested region into the scene coordinate system.

By the time the request is sent to the server the highest available resolution in this region is unknown.

If the source resolution is significantly lower than the target one, a lower resolution or larger area must be selected.

Esri is constantly striving to improve the resolution ad currency of its base map services (e.g. the World Imagery Service)

Re: Selected Extent Too Small for Get Map Data- CityEngine

DavidWasserman — Mon, 30 Jan 2017 22:37:30 GMT

Hi Thomas,
Thanks for the reply. Does the scene coordinate system have some impact on the tiles that can be retrieved then? Or is it just that you need to select a larger or lower res tile in some cases depending on what is available?
David

Re: Selected Extent Too Small for Get Map Data- CityEngine

ThomasFuchs — Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:17:01 GMT

The default values are not optimal when you have an empty scene with no coordinate set.

In this case just lower the basemap resolution (High -> Med) or increase the width/height of the bounds (1000 -> 2000). Both has the same effect.

Re: Selected Extent Too Small for Get Map Data- CityEngine

nazaninyousefi — Wed, 13 Sep 2017 18:40:44 GMT

You must change the resolution option on the custom

Re: Selected Extent Too Small for Get Map Data- CityEngine

DavidWasserman — Thu, 14 Sep 2017 00:40:41 GMT

That was not the issue in this case I think. I think it has to do with the Tile requirements Thomas mentioned. When I tried custom, it gave a similar response.