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    <title>topic Re: Lot setback in ArcGIS CityEngine Questions</title>
    <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-cityengine-questions/lot-setback/m-p/250548#M3324</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Interesting idea Geoff going to keep that example around.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For some of the setback functions I have noticed that in practice sometimes the setback can have odd lines when the resulting block shape has large curb radii. &lt;A href="https://community.esri.com/migrated-users/18504"&gt;Pedro Soares&lt;/A&gt;​, perhaps taking the generated shapes and reducing their curb radii might help with your setbacks if you have really small setbacks (a few feet etc). I have had some success with this in the past for certain lot rules.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2016 23:01:16 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>DavidWasserman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-03-03T23:01:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Lot setback</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-cityengine-questions/lot-setback/m-p/250541#M3317</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have manage to do different setbacks to my lot!!!! Thanks to the forum!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However the result only works when the lot has subdivision (shapes/block parameters/type/...).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If I pretend to do something like in the figure.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;How could I change my rule to do it?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica, 'helvetica neue', verdana, sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;Lot--&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica, 'helvetica neue', verdana, sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;setback (9) {street.front : NIL | remainder :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica, 'helvetica neue', verdana, sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; setback (3.9) {street.back: NIL | remainder:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica, 'helvetica neue', verdana, sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; setback (4.46) {street.side: NIL | remainder:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica, 'helvetica neue', verdana, sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Grow&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica, 'helvetica neue', verdana, sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; }&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica, 'helvetica neue', verdana, sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; }&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica, 'helvetica neue', verdana, sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;}&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica, 'helvetica neue', verdana, sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;Grow--&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica, 'helvetica neue', verdana, sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;extrude(rand(6,8))&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica, 'helvetica neue', verdana, sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica, 'helvetica neue', verdana, sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica, 'helvetica neue', verdana, sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;Thanks in advance&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-size: 14px; font-family: arial, helvetica, 'helvetica neue', verdana, sans-serif; color: #3d3d3d;"&gt;Pedro&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2016 08:43:07 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>PmssS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-03-01T08:43:07Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lot setback</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-cityengine-questions/lot-setback/m-p/250542#M3318</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;To get the shape in the image, you could probably use shapeO() and then take the remainder as your building:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://cehelp.esri.com/help/topic/com.procedural.cityengine.help/html/cgareference/op_shapeLUO.html" title="http://cehelp.esri.com/help/topic/com.procedural.cityengine.help/html/cgareference/op_shapeLUO.html"&gt;shapeL, shapeU, shapeO operations&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The reason why setback isn't working as you intended on non-subdivided block is because each side of the non-subdivided lot is touching a street, so street.front will always apply to each side.&amp;nbsp; You could use the selectors front, back, right, left, etc instead of street.front, street.back.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2016 14:01:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-cityengine-questions/lot-setback/m-p/250542#M3318</guid>
      <dc:creator>CherylLau</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-03-01T14:01:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lot setback</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-cityengine-questions/lot-setback/m-p/250543#M3319</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks I did exactly that! I replace the street.front by front, etc.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However the result is still not ok.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I will try do do it as you say! with the shapeO operation.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;the goal is to identify the structure in&amp;nbsp; an area under construction. Using a rule file to identify which type of structure it is being built there.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;after finally using the statistics to show the possible future change.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;cheers&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pedro&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2016 15:18:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-cityengine-questions/lot-setback/m-p/250543#M3319</guid>
      <dc:creator>PmssS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-03-01T15:18:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lot setback</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-cityengine-questions/lot-setback/m-p/250544#M3320</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cheryl, &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On the non-subdivided block shape, do you know if it is possible to set a first edge? I can see that the widest street sets the first edge, but is there a way to override?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Chris&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2016 17:01:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-cityengine-questions/lot-setback/m-p/250544#M3320</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous User</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-03-01T17:01:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lot setback</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-cityengine-questions/lot-setback/m-p/250545#M3321</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Nope, sorry, the first edge is automatically set for street blocks, and there is no way to change it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2016 18:20:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>CherylLau</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-03-03T18:20:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lot setback</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-cityengine-questions/lot-setback/m-p/250546#M3322</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2016 18:22:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous User</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-03-03T18:22:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lot setback</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-cityengine-questions/lot-setback/m-p/250547#M3323</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Could manually set using &lt;A href="http://cehelp.esri.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.procedural.cityengine.help/html/cgareference/op_setPivot.html" title="http://cehelp.esri.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.procedural.cityengine.help/html/cgareference/op_setPivot.html"&gt;SetPivot :&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Perhaps leverage python to apply the value?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ex:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;attr PivotNumber = 1&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;setPivot(xyz, PivotNumber)&amp;nbsp; # where Pivot Number can be&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #e23d39;"&gt;Example implemented in above rule:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #e23d39;"&gt;#################&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #e23d39;"&gt;# Setback Version #&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #e23d39;"&gt;#################&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Lot--&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;setPivot(xyz, 0)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;setback (9) {front : frontColor | remainder :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; setback (3.9) {back: backColor| remainder:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; setback (4.46) {side: sideColor | remainder:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Grow&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; }&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; }&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;}&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Grow--&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;extrude(rand(6,8))&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;frontColor--&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; color(0,1,0)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;backColor--&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; color(1,0,0)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;sideColor--&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; color(0,0,1)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #e23d39;"&gt;###&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #e23d39;"&gt;Results:&amp;nbsp; Left (SetPivot= 0), right Left (SetPivot= 1)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG __jive_id="188671" class="image-3 jive-image" height="205" src="https://community.esri.com/legacyfs/online/188671_pastedImage_3.png" style="width: 271px; height: 204.785px;" width="271" /&gt;&lt;IMG __jive_id="188675" class="jive-image image-4" height="193" src="https://community.esri.com/legacyfs/online/188675_pastedImage_4.png" style="width: 253px; height: 192.988px;" width="253" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #e23d39;"&gt;#################&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #e23d39;"&gt;# Split Version #&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #e23d39;"&gt;#################&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Lot--&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;setPivot(xyz, 1)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;split(x){9: frontColor |~1:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; split(z){4.46: sideColor |~1: Grow |4.46: sideColor} &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; | 3.9 : backColor}&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Grow--&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; extrude(rand(6,8))&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;frontColor--&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; color(0,1,0)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;backColor--&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; color(1,0,0)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;sideColor--&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; color(0,0,1)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #e23d39;"&gt;####&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #e23d39;"&gt;Results:&amp;nbsp; Left (SetPivot= 0), right Left (SetPivot= 1)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG __jive_id="188669" class="image-1 jive-image" height="190" src="https://community.esri.com/legacyfs/online/188669_pastedImage_1.png" style="width: 252px; height: 190.286px;" width="252" /&gt;&lt;IMG __jive_id="188670" class="image-2 jive-image" height="196" src="https://community.esri.com/legacyfs/online/188670_pastedImage_2.png" style="width: 273px; height: 196.384px;" width="273" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2016 21:18:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous User</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-03-03T21:18:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lot setback</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-cityengine-questions/lot-setback/m-p/250548#M3324</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Interesting idea Geoff going to keep that example around.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For some of the setback functions I have noticed that in practice sometimes the setback can have odd lines when the resulting block shape has large curb radii. &lt;A href="https://community.esri.com/migrated-users/18504"&gt;Pedro Soares&lt;/A&gt;​, perhaps taking the generated shapes and reducing their curb radii might help with your setbacks if you have really small setbacks (a few feet etc). I have had some success with this in the past for certain lot rules.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2016 23:01:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>DavidWasserman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-03-03T23:01:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lot setback</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-cityengine-questions/lot-setback/m-p/250549#M3325</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Nice workaround!&amp;nbsp; I take back my original statement.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2016 09:01:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/arcgis-cityengine-questions/lot-setback/m-p/250549#M3325</guid>
      <dc:creator>CherylLau</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-03-04T09:01:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lot setback</title>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://community.esri.com/migrated-users/172220"&gt;Cheryl Lau&lt;/A&gt;‌ , just to clarify does the set Pivot operation allow to change the first edge in a Dynamic shape then? &lt;IMG src="https://community.esri.com/legacyfs/online/emoticons/happy.png" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2020 08:50:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>AbeleGiandoso</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-18T08:50:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Lot setback</title>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;The above&amp;nbsp;is a workaround.&amp;nbsp; No, &lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'courier new', courier, monospace;"&gt;setPivot&lt;/SPAN&gt; does not change the first edge of a dynamic shape.&amp;nbsp; Sorry for the confusion in my previous comment.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2020 12:07:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>CherylLau</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-19T12:07:38Z</dc:date>
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