topic Re: 3D Scene View slow with ES modules from 4.21 in ArcGIS JavaScript Maps SDK Questions

3D Scene View slow with ES modules from 4.21

VictorBerchet — Fri, 04 Mar 2022 04:23:12 GMT

My app uses the JS API.

I am trying to switch from the esri-loader to ES modules as described in the docs.

However the speed of my app is drastically slower when using the 4.22.2 package.

With esri-loader: https://flyxc.app/?3d=

With ES modules 4.22.2: https://20220303t135459-dot-fly-xc.uc.r.appspot.com/3d

Everything seems to be slower: loading tiles, geometries.

I have tried different versions of the NPM package. 4.20.2 actually works fine and the speed is great. The problem occurs from 4.21.2.

Does anybody experience similar issues or have an idea of what could go wrong / what to check ?

(I am using chrome and see no errors in the console).

Re: 3D Scene View slow with ES modules from 4.21

VictorBerchet — Fri, 04 Mar 2022 15:32:59 GMT

It seems like to be related to glb rendering. If you add a model to the scene then it will slow down dramatically, whether or nor the model is actually visible in the view.

Re: 3D Scene View slow with ES modules from 4.21

VictorBerchet — Fri, 04 Mar 2022 21:51:10 GMT

There is an easy reproduction by using the codepen in https://developers.arcgis.com/javascript/latest/sample-code/import-gltf/

The app is very slow when you launch it.
Replacing the 4.22 version by 4.20 make it much snappier.

Re: 3D Scene View slow with ES modules from 4.21

VictorBerchet — Wed, 23 Mar 2022 20:55:54 GMT

Still not fixed in 4.23

Re: 3D Scene View slow with ES modules from 4.21

VictorBerchet — Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:43:59 GMT

It seems like this has been resolved in 4.23.7

Re: 3D Scene View slow with ES modules from 4.21

VictorBerchet — Wed, 25 May 2022 03:05:35 GMT

I am actually still having problem in Chrome and have to switch back to 4.19 (Safari looks faster)

Re: 3D Scene View slow with ES modules from 4.21

TonyGraham — Tue, 14 Jun 2022 16:40:48 GMT

I see this as well.

On a MacBook Pro (Monterey 12.2), I get extremely slow performance of that example using Chrome 102.0.5005.115 (unless I downgrade to ArcGIS 4.20). In particular, dragging the map is slow. Oddly, it runs much faster on Safari 15.3 (even with ArcGIS 4.23).

Other SceneViews I use seem likewise slow.

Re: 3D Scene View slow with ES modules from 4.21

ArnoFiva — Sat, 01 Oct 2022 06:43:44 GMT

Hi Victor, unfortunately we've been seeing the same issues with older MacBooks. It's not reliably reproducible, updating the OS or browser seems to have an effect. Also it's not just our API that's effected, other 3D applications relying on WebGL (e.g. Three.js samples) also show poor performance - usually depending on the complexity of the scene.

One workaround for this specific line of hardware appears to be setting the WebGL version to 1, you can do this at the beginning of your application code through https://developers.arcgis.com/javascript/latest/api-reference/esri-views-3d-externalRenderers.html#forceWebGLContext

Let me know if this helps. I'm a big fan of your paraglider app, would be nice to talk about it sometime!

Re: 3D Scene View slow with ES modules from 4.21

VictorBerchet — Sun, 02 Oct 2022 02:59:06 GMT

Hey Arno,

Thanks a lot for the detailed response.

As I understand the workaround is to stick to webGL1 for the time being. Would there be any drawbacks of doing that? (ie missing features)

From your link I think your plan is to phase out webGL1 at some point but using it would allow continuing to support bogus hw for now.

Thanks a lot for offering this great API!

Re: 3D Scene View slow with ES modules from 4.21

ArnoFiva — Mon, 10 Oct 2022 14:44:34 GMT

Hi Victor

No drawbacks from using WebGL1 now, but you are right the plan is to drop support for it in an upcoming release. We are looking into the issue and trying to find a solution on our side before that happens.

Hope this helps,

Arno

Re: 3D Scene View slow with ES modules from 4.21

JonathanStahl — Thu, 12 Jan 2023 15:40:06 GMT

Hey Victor,

We are currently investigating the performance issues that only occur on certain Macbook models in Chrome. Could you tell us the specs of the Macbook you are experiencing the issues on (year, processor and especially dedicated and integrated GPU)?

Re: 3D Scene View slow with ES modules from 4.21

VictorBerchet — Thu, 12 Jan 2023 19:27:20 GMT

Hey Jonathan,

It was my work laptop and I don't remember all the details - I gave it back a couple weeks ago 😞

For sure it was MBP 2018 (https://support.apple.com/kb/SP776?locale=en_US) not sure about the GPU.
The issue was indeed Chrome only.

Re: 3D Scene View slow with ES modules from 4.21

JonathanStahl — Sun, 15 Jan 2023 13:41:23 GMT

Thanks for the quick reply! The year of the MBP already helps us 👍 🙂