topic Getting 3D length for a line along a surface in 3D Questions

Getting 3D length for a line along a surface

petegillard — Thu, 11 Feb 2016 17:41:32 GMT

I need to get an "actual" length of a path along a 3D surface. I've tried ADD SURFACE INFORMATION, ADD Z INFORMATION and a couple of tools from Spatial analyst (Path distance, thinking that might work) but nothing does. First used a DEM for the surface and realized the "data" was all 10m. apart, so probably messed that up, converted it to a TIN but keep coming up with the same results. Z distance is the same as using the "distance tool" or drawing a graphic line on the map. It's all 43 miles. !? Any ideas?

thanks!

Pete

Re: Getting 3D length for a line along a surface

DanPatterson_Retired — Thu, 11 Feb 2016 22:32:30 GMT

If your units are in meters what results did you get from the add surface information analysis?

Add Surface Information—Help | ArcGIS for Desktop

There are a number of options there but you don't specify what you are using to get the surface information?

Re: Getting 3D length for a line along a surface

petegillard — Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:46:27 GMT

Hi thanks,

I think I mentioned I used a DEM at first (Raster dataset?), then thought it might have to be a TIN, so I converted that DEM into a TIN. The units are in meters, but when it added the Z-length field it was identical to the ShapeLength number. A graphic line on the map is the same distance.

Any other thoughts?

Thanks!

Re: Getting 3D length for a line along a surface

PrasantaBhattarai — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 22:35:37 GMT

Hello Pete!

Are you using the Add Surface Information tool as Dan suggested? It should give you the surface length from your DEM. On my screen capture below, SLength attribute is the 3D length (which is different from Shape_Length) after running Add Surface Information tool.

Thanks,

Prasanta.

Re: Getting 3D length for a line along a surface

PrasantaBhattarai — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 22:46:30 GMT

If for any reason Add Surface Information is NOT working for you, you should also be able to calculate the same using following steps:

1. Interpolate Shape > Input surface: DEM; Input features: Polyline; and rest as default options.

2. Add a field (double) then Calculate Geometry to calculate 3D Length Property.

For me, this gave same/similar results as adding surface length.

Hope this help!

Thanks,

Prasanta.

Re: Getting 3D length for a line along a surface

DanPatterson_Retired — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 01:49:27 GMT

See this thread Construct Points on polyline at 3d distance and the vector solution provided by Xander Bakker

Re: Getting 3D length for a line along a surface

petegillard — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 14:51:01 GMT

Thank you Prasanta!

I did find the “Interpolate Shape” tool, (and added the 3D length field) it DID give me a different number for 3D length, by 7 miles. That does not seem right (but ?) the 264 mile Reservation boundary mostly follows watershed divides in the Rockies with an overall 2000m (~3000 ft. to 9000ft.)elevation fluctuation. I’ve enclosed the profile graph it produced, which definitely appears to have worked (I’ve labeled physical features that appear to make sense – it runs from the NE corner, south to Evaro Hill, west to the Flathead River, north, then east back towards Flathead Lake and the NE point of beginning).

Thanks to all who have answered or responded, will run with this for now.