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    <title>topic LAS Dataset - how to see multiple returns? in 3D Questions</title>
    <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/3d-questions/las-dataset-how-to-see-multiple-returns/m-p/617808#M3683</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;ArcGIS 10.1, ArcInfo license - 3D Analyst.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I am using the LAS Dataset tools and I have noticed that where in my LAS file I have multiple returns, I can only ever seem to see or Identify one of the returns.&amp;nbsp; It's like ArcGIS choses one of returns to represent the point and suppresses all the others.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Workflow is this:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1) Load an LAS dataset and zoom in close to a forested area (where I know I will have multiple returns per point).&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2) Use Identify and click on a few points until you find one where Number of Returns &amp;gt; 1.&amp;nbsp; For example a point that is Return No. 1 out of Number of Returns = 2.&amp;nbsp; So in this case this is the first of two returns.&amp;nbsp; That is the point showing in the display.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;3) Go into the layer properties and use the filters to show last returns only.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;4) Now, in this case there were two returns, and you should see the second one (the last return) now, right?&amp;nbsp; Yet it is not there.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;5) Likewise if you do an LAS Dataset Profile View, and include a point with known multiple returns, the profile view shows only the return which "Identify" says is there.&amp;nbsp; In this case it would only show the first return and not the second return.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;This same behavior will occur if you use a different point as a test, for example one where it is Identified as return 2 of two.&amp;nbsp; Then it will not show a first return at that location.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I tried this with two different collections - one from 2011 via PhotoScience and the other from 2012 via Woolpert.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Anybody else have this issue or know how to show the multiple returns?&amp;nbsp; Or is this a bug and the software should show the returns?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Mike&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 17:36:18 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>MichaelSmith1</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-08-31T17:36:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>LAS Dataset - how to see multiple returns?</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/3d-questions/las-dataset-how-to-see-multiple-returns/m-p/617808#M3683</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;ArcGIS 10.1, ArcInfo license - 3D Analyst.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I am using the LAS Dataset tools and I have noticed that where in my LAS file I have multiple returns, I can only ever seem to see or Identify one of the returns.&amp;nbsp; It's like ArcGIS choses one of returns to represent the point and suppresses all the others.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Workflow is this:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1) Load an LAS dataset and zoom in close to a forested area (where I know I will have multiple returns per point).&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2) Use Identify and click on a few points until you find one where Number of Returns &amp;gt; 1.&amp;nbsp; For example a point that is Return No. 1 out of Number of Returns = 2.&amp;nbsp; So in this case this is the first of two returns.&amp;nbsp; That is the point showing in the display.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;3) Go into the layer properties and use the filters to show last returns only.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;4) Now, in this case there were two returns, and you should see the second one (the last return) now, right?&amp;nbsp; Yet it is not there.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;5) Likewise if you do an LAS Dataset Profile View, and include a point with known multiple returns, the profile view shows only the return which "Identify" says is there.&amp;nbsp; In this case it would only show the first return and not the second return.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;This same behavior will occur if you use a different point as a test, for example one where it is Identified as return 2 of two.&amp;nbsp; Then it will not show a first return at that location.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I tried this with two different collections - one from 2011 via PhotoScience and the other from 2012 via Woolpert.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Anybody else have this issue or know how to show the multiple returns?&amp;nbsp; Or is this a bug and the software should show the returns?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Mike&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
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      <dc:creator>MichaelSmith1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-08-31T17:36:18Z</dc:date>
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