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    <title>topic Re: Problem with calculating wall shaded fraction in 3D Questions</title>
    <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/3d-questions/problem-with-calculating-wall-shaded-fraction/m-p/460146#M2776</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you do a Union3D on the resulting shaded walls, it will create a result without overlap (2 features):&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG class="image-1 jive-image" src="https://community.esri.com/legacyfs/online/216801_pastedImage_1.png" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am not so convinced about the resulting area. The point is, that you are working with volumes while you goal is to obtain the surface (m²). The&amp;nbsp;surface of the&amp;nbsp;3D volume is not the same as the shaded part of the wall.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:17:44 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>XanderBakker</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-08-18T13:17:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Problem with calculating wall shaded fraction</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/3d-questions/problem-with-calculating-wall-shaded-fraction/m-p/460143#M2773</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi All,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I attempted to calculate the the&amp;nbsp;shaded fraction of a single wall, at a given point in time, taking into account shade from surrounding buildings. However the calculation didn't work as expected and I'm really confused... Any help will be greatly appreciated!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As can be seen in the following image, the initial input layers are -&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1. A Multi-patch layer representing &lt;STRONG&gt;buildings&lt;/STRONG&gt; in a given neighborhood (shown in &lt;SPAN style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;grey&lt;/SPAN&gt;).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2. A Multi-patch layer representing a &lt;STRONG&gt;single wall&lt;/STRONG&gt; of one of the buildings (shown in &lt;SPAN style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;green&lt;/SPAN&gt;).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="" class="image-1 jive-image j-img-original" src="https://community.esri.com/legacyfs/online/216787_1_buildings_and_wall.png" style="width: 620px; height: 375px;" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The wall is, in fact, a segment 10 cm wide, shifted 1 cm from the actual buildings, so that there is no intersection between them, as can be seen in the following "view from above" -&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="" class="image-2 jive-image j-img-original" src="https://community.esri.com/legacyfs/online/216791_2_buildings_and_wall_zoom_in.png" style="width: 620px; height: 375px;" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The intention was to find out (1) the volume of the wall, and (2) the volume of the intersection between the wall and a sun shadow multi-patch. Using these two figures the shaded fraction can then be calculated.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Wall&amp;nbsp;volume (1),&amp;nbsp;is equal to 15 m^3 as given using the "Add Z Information" tool -&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="" class="image-4 jive-image j-img-original" src="https://community.esri.com/legacyfs/online/216793_3_buildings_and_wall_volume.png" style="width: 620px; height: 388px;" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In order to obtain the shaded fraction volume, I first calculate a &lt;STRONG&gt;"Sun Shadow" multi-patch&lt;/STRONG&gt; using the "Sun Shadow Volume" tool, for an arbitrary time point (today at 19:00) (shown in &lt;SPAN style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;yellow&lt;/SPAN&gt;)&amp;nbsp;-&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="" class="image-3 jive-image j-img-original" src="https://community.esri.com/legacyfs/online/216792_4_sun_shadow.png" style="width: 620px; height: 375px;" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Using the "Intersect 3D" tool the &lt;STRONG&gt;shaded part&amp;nbsp;of the wall&lt;/STRONG&gt; is obtained (shown in &lt;SPAN style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;red&lt;/SPAN&gt; below). Visually its shape perfectly makes sense.&amp;nbsp;However, examining its&amp;nbsp;volume reveals that it is composed of five features, giving a total of -&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5.82+5.27+2.06+1.14+0.12 =&amp;nbsp;14.41 m^3&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In other words, according to the calculation 95.6% of the wall is shaded, which is clearly an overestimate.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="" class="image-5 jive-image j-img-original" src="https://community.esri.com/legacyfs/online/216794_5_intersection_volume.png" style="width: 620px; height: 388px;" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My initial thought was that the five multi-patch features are partially overlapping which leads to the overestimation. Therefore&amp;nbsp;I tried dissolving them with the "Union 3D" tool.&amp;nbsp;Visually the result looks the same, and indeed it was reduced to two features. However the&amp;nbsp;volume is now 0 m^3 !&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="" class="image-6 jive-image j-img-original" src="https://community.esri.com/legacyfs/online/216796_6_intersection_union_volume.png" style="width: 620px; height: 388px;" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Does anyone have an idea what is going on?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The attached file includes three&amp;nbsp;input layers - buildings, wall and sun shadow - in case anyone&amp;nbsp;is interested to reproduce the issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks in advance!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Michael&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;P.S. The following video by ESRI advertises exactly the same application I&amp;nbsp;tried to achieve so I hope it is indeed possible -&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A class="link-titled" href="http://video.arcgis.com/watch/279/volumetric-shadow-analysis-over-time" title="http://video.arcgis.com/watch/279/volumetric-shadow-analysis-over-time"&gt;Volumetric Shadow Analysis Over Time | ArcGIS Video&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp; (see last ~10 seconds)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:56:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous User</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-18T08:56:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem with calculating wall shaded fraction</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/3d-questions/problem-with-calculating-wall-shaded-fraction/m-p/460144#M2774</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;The Sun layer has overlap, causing the resulting multipatch to have overlap too. That is why the volume (not area) is so high.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2016 12:16:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>XanderBakker</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-18T12:16:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem with calculating wall shaded fraction</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/3d-questions/problem-with-calculating-wall-shaded-fraction/m-p/460145#M2775</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Xander,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you very much for your reply. I understand that can be the cause for the problem.&amp;nbsp;But I need to know the shaded area taking all buildings into account, not just one, so the shade overlap issue needs to be bypassed somehow.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Michael&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:00:21 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous User</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-18T13:00:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem with calculating wall shaded fraction</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/3d-questions/problem-with-calculating-wall-shaded-fraction/m-p/460146#M2776</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you do a Union3D on the resulting shaded walls, it will create a result without overlap (2 features):&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG class="image-1 jive-image" src="https://community.esri.com/legacyfs/online/216801_pastedImage_1.png" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am not so convinced about the resulting area. The point is, that you are working with volumes while you goal is to obtain the surface (m²). The&amp;nbsp;surface of the&amp;nbsp;3D volume is not the same as the shaded part of the wall.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:17:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.esri.com/t5/3d-questions/problem-with-calculating-wall-shaded-fraction/m-p/460146#M2776</guid>
      <dc:creator>XanderBakker</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-18T13:17:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Problem with calculating wall shaded fraction</title>
      <link>https://community.esri.com/t5/3d-questions/problem-with-calculating-wall-shaded-fraction/m-p/460147#M2777</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you very much Xander for looking into it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Then perhaps there&amp;nbsp;is another approach to quantitatively estimate&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;shaded proportion&amp;nbsp;of a wall?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Michael&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2016 09:09:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous User</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-08-21T09:09:19Z</dc:date>
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