ArcGIS Pro uses a Temporary Use license, that will expire when your maintenance expires.
It requires a Name User in ArcGIS Online.
This is a change from the current ArcGIS Desktop licenses that are permanent and do not expire.
Has this question been answered officially by Esri yet?
I'm still waiting for reassurance from Esri or its local distributor that the information that led to this poll was incorrect.
I will confirm that ArcGIS Pro, a component of ArcGIS for Desktop, is designed as the premier application for Web GIS and thus follows the subscription based model of ArcGIS Online and Portal for ArcGIS. Named User (secure identity) access to your choice of these portals was added to ArcGIS for Desktop in 2013. The addition of ArcGIS Pro provides the full Web GIS experience for those that need more than just a viewer or simple app - our traditional ArcGIS for Desktop (ArcMap) users. Both ArcGIS Pro and the Named User Identity were added at no increase in the base price or maintenance of ArcGIS for Desktop. Many customers have issue with the idea of a subscription model, but are already using ArcGIS Online or Portal for ArcGIS and continue to pay maintenance on their ArcGIS for Desktop license in order to receive support and updates to ArcGIS for Desktop. As many have pointed out in this and other threads, this move follows the industry changes and enables more hosted services and web-based proliferation of spatial analysis and web maps to more and more end users - your customers as well as Esri's!
I suspect that that both ArcGIS Pro and the Named User Identity were added at no increase in the base price or maintenance of ArcGIS for Desktop to seduce us into accepting a licensing model that will have us become dependent on the new flagship desktop application (ArcGIS Pro) in a way that prevents us from being able to defer paying maintenance to a time that suits us.
Under the licensing model for the previous flagship desktop application (ArcMap) we continued to be able to use our desktop even if our maintenance had lapsed.
I see no reason why the adoption of the Named User Identity should prevent an existing user of the ArcGIS Pro application from continuing to use it in the event of lapsed or discontinued maintenance.
Remaining committed to long term users of ArcGIS for Desktop should I think be no more difficult than disconnecting updates from the Organisation and its Named User(s) while permitting them to continue to access licenses from their ArcGIS Online accounts.
Thanks Royce, I appreciate the clarification.
Thanks for getting back to us. It is now clear ArcGIS Pro is a subscription based model.
This needs to be made clearer in the documentation, and to the user community.
I noted you say it is the premier application for web GIS and thus follows the subscription based model. As Graeme points out though, the very opening line of the ArcGIS Pro documentation states:
"ArcGIS Pro is the essential application for creating and working with spatial data on your desktop."
But lets look at ArcGIS Desktop and ArcGIS Pro. Desktop 8.0 was released in 1999, and thus is a 20 year old product, built on 32 bit technology with COM. It has had a wonderful career, and we all love it, but it is approaching the use by date. ArcGIS Pro is the obvious replacement - but it will take a few years to be feature complete. Same scenario as Workstation ArcInfo and Desktop 15 years ago. So let's not beat around the bush - and name it up for what it is. In 5 years time, we would have transitioned to the new ArcGIS Pro.
But why do we care? After all, we have had a 20 year relationship with Esri, and we plan to continue that into the future. Put simply - Risk.
So, in 5 years time, we would have spent years transitioning all our ArcObjects to the new API, and re-built our business processes from Desktop to Pro, not to mention training etc. All is good. Then for some financial reason, the state government says they cannot afford the $x00,000 annual license fee for Esri. At the moment, it would be a bummer - but everything would just keep on working. Sure we would not have support, or upgrades - but it would work. And we would have the time to plan and move forward. If the license is in the cloud, and it stops - then everything stops. This is one of the reasons we were so sure to have a get out clause in the ELA contract so that if anything went wrong, we still had the ability to continue with the software. The license manager in the cloud that expires breaks this agreement.
It is also not outside the realms of possibility that Esri may decide to double, or triple our annual license fee. If we are locked into a subscription model, with potentially years of development to transition out, the business risks are simple too high.
Very well said, thank you Mark.
What needs to be pointed out is the subscription model is in direct contradiction to what Jack Dangermond has been saying at all the User Conferences in the last three years (i.e., "ArcPro is part of ArcGIS Desktop").
I guess the main qualifier is the cost.
If it costs $1000 to purchase outright, but $10 a month to rent, I'll happily rent. And understand that it'll stop working if I stop paying.
If it costs $1000 a year, or it stops working - I won't be as happy.
Me too ... but if it cost you more than $4,000 per year to access ArcGIS Pro Standard in Australia?
If I can get all of MS Office 365 for around $100, or Adobe Creative Cloud (single app for $30 a month, or $70 for the lot) - I can't fathom how ArcGIS Pro could be $1000 per year, let alone $4,000 per year... add to that the cost of a named user in ArcGIS online - and the fragmented licensing model becomes even more difficult to understand.
We are still trying to get a story from the local distributor on "Named Users" and how many the department is entitled to... good luck on getting a consistent story about ArcGIS Pro licensing
Economy of scale is why it costs more. Not nearly as many users as Office 365.
Hi Tom - Fair point.
My point is also about how it is pretty easy to get into the MS and Adobe products via a subscription based model and there is no confusion about it. I get that ESRI is in transition about buy+maintenance vs subscription - just wish they moved faster in getting their products in either the buy+maintenance swim lane or subscription swim lane - but not both.
ArcGIS Pro cannot be purchased as a separate product. It comes with ArcGIS for Desktop at 10.3. If you're current on maintenance, then you have ArcGIS Pro. It requires an ArcGIS Online Subscription Named User Account. A few years ago at the UC, I believe Jack announced every user would have a Named User Account. All one has to do is activate it.
Combined with your answer to Re: ArcGIS Pro License : Temporary use rights ONLY - will expire when maintenance stops you seem to be confirming that when Maintenance on ArcGIS for Desktop lapses the license to use its ArcGIS Pro application is revoked. For me this is incredibly disappointing.
Graeme - I understand your disappointment as many of my students have been asking this same question in my Pro classes. It's an industry trend that Esri has been slow to adopt (i.e. one of the last to do so.) Your ArcMap and ArcCatalog licenses would continue to be valid at their release when one chooses to not renew maintenance. But one's ability to use ArcGIS Pro would cease. Not sure if future releases of ArcGIS Pro will have a tool to export *.aprx to *.mxd's - that's a Dev team decision.
I guess I have been accustomed to Esri enticing its users to new offerings by being generous in its dealings with existing customers.
For example, when the last major Desktop GIS change occurred from ArcInfo Workstation to ArcGIS Desktop the permanent licensing continued to apply.
Despite some comments that have attempted to reposition ArcGIS Pro as Web GIS, the opening sentence of its Help is unambiguous:
"ArcGIS Pro is the essential application for creating and working with spatial data on your desktop. "
Consequently, I think it only reasonable that users who purchased Desktop GIS from Esri with permanent licensing should continue to receive access to its latest Desktop GIS offering (i.e. ArcGIS Pro), even if they neglect or choose not to keep those licenses maintained at all times.
This is an interesting discussion when it comes to customers that have a Standard Esri License Agreement (ELA).
Esri ELA information can be found here : http://www.esri.com/industries/ela
Under common questions:
What happens after my term limit is up?
You can always renew your ELA with your updated needs. Esri is here to meet your needs and help your organization to build a successful GIS enterprise.
If you are unable to continue with the standard ELA business model, you retain the licenses deployed under the ELA and may then acquire maintenance as you require it.
This is consistent with the agreement we signed:
Under SECTION 5 – ELA TERM AND TERMINATION
“Upon expiration of the ELA, Licensee may continue to use the Deployed Enterprise License Software and Rolled-In Software in accordance with the terms and conditions set forth in the License Agreement.”
... so it would appear to me the subscription based license model for ArcGIS Pro breaks this agreement, and is inconsistent with the information on Esri ELA pages, and inconsistent for Enterprise development solutions.
As far as development in an Enterprise environment, the risk is considerable. We had discussions with our IT people, and they are not happy with us considering development on a product that is subscription based for an Enterprise solution. Risk is too high.
I absolutely do not want to be put in a position where we cannot access old projects because the programs will not run because of expired licenses. Just this month I needed to resurrect a project put to bed a dozen years ago, built with ArcInfo Workstation. Sure I could access the data with present day ArcMap and ArcGIS Pro, but in this case I needed the scripts and some of the exe tools as well. It would have cost tens of thousands to recreate what I needed without access to those old programs. Needs like this are not frequent, but they're not completely isolated either.
Here are instructions for managing your ArcGIS Pro licenses: Manage ArcGIS Pro licenses—ArcGIS Pro | ArcGIS for Desktop
Woody, what is the purpose of the link and post? As mentioned before the ESRI documentation of the subscription model is rubbish at best so we can't tell if this fixes our issue. Do some of the licensing options mentioned in the link exclude the requirement of subscribing to use ArcPro?
Yes, the options for licensing ArcGIS Pro as Single Use or Concurrent Use can be found in the link.
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